2002 - 2004 Range Rover, why not?
2002 - 2004 Range Rover, why not?
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Blues

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8,546 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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I bought a new 4.8 V8 RR Vogue in 2004 and absolutely loved it. I sold it 3 years later because I could almost "hear" it depreciating, and more importantly I needed to raise some cash.

I was just looking at the current prices, which are ridiculously low. £10k seems to get a relatively low mileage (50 - 60k) full fat Vogue. So, if I was looking for a change in my daily drive, and wasn't too troubled by mpg, why shouldn't I get myself one of these beauties?

What Problems should I look out for at this age and mileage?
Does the 2002 model have the BMW power unit?
Can sensible warranties still be bought for these?

Talk me out of it - or not smile

iphonedyou

10,049 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
is almost as annoying as 'weapons grade'.

Back on topic, reliability, running costs, check 'em out.
Agree with you there.

pidsy

8,538 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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my mate has just bought a 54 plate RR V8 for £11k.

i have a feeling he will wish he had'nt. the only saving grace is that its got an LPG conversion.

Blues

Original Poster:

8,546 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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pidsy said:
my mate has just bought a 54 plate RR V8 for £11k.

i have a feeling he will wish he had'nt . the only saving grace is that its got an LPG conversion.
Why do you say that?

mr_spock

3,368 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Blues said:
pidsy said:
my mate has just bought a 54 plate RR V8 for £11k.

i have a feeling he will wish he had'nt . the only saving grace is that its got an LPG conversion.
Why do you say that?
Because he doesn't know where the apostrophe goes in "hadn't"?

Or maybe because these have a dreadful reputation for reliability.

Shaw Tarse

31,820 posts

224 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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mr_spock said:
Or maybe because these have a dreadful reputation for reliability.
But they must be a nice place to sit?




While waiting for the AA!

<yes I do keep looking at FFRRs in the classifieds>

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Air suspension? Did that not used to be a massively expensive problem?

Blues

Original Poster:

8,546 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Plenty of rhetoric thanks, however I was wondering if anyone has their own, real life experiences?

Shaw Tarse

31,820 posts

224 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Blues said:
Plenty of rhetoric thanks, however I was wondering if anyone has their own, real life experiences?
Possibly people in LR section?

bakerstreet

4,981 posts

186 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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They can now be had from £6k upwards and that is from a dealer!

Lets be honest, its a Land Rover, so it will have its fair share problems.

Rear boot seals fail and can soak the electrics
Transmissions can fail, but I'm told that regular oil changes helpb them keep in good shape.
Air suspension can fail, but some of them are getting on a bit now, so thats fair enough.
Bushes and similar have a hard life because of the weight of the vehicle and can be pricey to replace.

A google search will reveal a buyers guide. I'm not doing that for you....

Tom74

658 posts

251 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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I had an 04 reg one, apart from the front diff going and needing replacing (2 weeks out of warranty but covered in full by LR) nothing went wrong and it was a great place to sit.

Buy one with history, and perhaps a warranty, for peice of mind.

pidsy

8,538 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Blues said:
pidsy said:
my mate has just bought a 54 plate RR V8 for £11k.

i have a feeling he will wish he hadn't . the only saving grace is that its got an LPG conversion.
Why do you say that?
primarily because he's a tight git and wont want to pay for anything (hence the LPG)

fozzymandeus

1,076 posts

167 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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A colleague spent £4000 fixing his air suspension on a 2001 P38 V8 Rangie. I imagine it's a similar design to the 2002- system, so that's a big potential bill. Warranty companies will probably try to wiggle out of paying up on it, too - as it'll be considered a mileage dependent wear and tear issue, no doubt.

edc

9,461 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Blues said:
Plenty of rhetoric thanks, however I was wondering if anyone has their own, real life experiences?
Paid £6.5 k for a 4.4 Vogue a couple of months ago. Not perfect condition but perfectly decent. I guess just watch out for the usual stuff that will wear as the miles pile on. If you've had one before then you don't need to be told about the driving style or the interior I guess.

Matt777

566 posts

228 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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If I recall correctly, these are rated one of the most unreliable cars on the road in a recent survey, and have actually overtaken the P38 and Freelander as the trouble of the LR range.

I owned one for two years - no major issues, but plently of annoying niggles. As with any car like this - a lovely image, presence, and drive - but a reliability gamble. Its a 60k car when new, and still can attract bills relative to this.

Lensey

2,526 posts

304 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I had a 52 plate Vogue, loved every minute of it, just about to sell it and the transmission went and the gearbox, £5k later I sold it for £17kfrown

Blues

Original Poster:

8,546 posts

240 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Matt777 said:
If I recall correctly, these are rated one of the most unreliable cars on the road in a recent survey, and have actually overtaken the P38 and Freelander as the trouble of the LR range.

I owned one for two years - no major issues, but plently of annoying niggles. As with any car like this - a lovely image, presence, and drive - but a reliability gamble. Its a 60k car when new, and still can attract bills relative to this.
From new, mine was good, but I had the comfort of the warranty, which was used for an electrical gremlin and the front suspension, otherwise it gave me 45k miles of luxurious wafting.

I fully understand the 60k car repairs, i ran an E38 750 for a while.

The comment about them being one of the most unreliable cars is a worry, and together with other research I am really starting to reconsider.

Lensey said:
I had a 52 plate Vogue, loved every minute of it, just about to sell it and the transmission went and the gearbox, £5k later I sold it for £17kfrown
That's rotten luck Lensey. Do you mind me asking how long did you have it and how many miles had it done when it dumped that bill on you?

ajh38

899 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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mr_spock said:
Because he doesn't know where the apostrophe goes in "hadn't"?

Or maybe because these have a dreadful reputation for reliability.
If using speech marks the quote should be in the original form.

PaddyZulu

381 posts

278 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Oh David, David, David..... brilliant minds and that.
I've had this yearning for the last few months and browsing the classifieds, with no real conviction I hasten to add. LR Used site even appears to have some bargains, which one would hope would come with a good pedigree and warranty.
What I fancy though is a Td6 close to 06, or by the time I get my arse into gear I can see the later V8 Diesel a better bet.
fullfatrr.com is a treasure chest of gen, though I guess you may have been there and done that wink Hope your well

Liokault

2,837 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Because I was a quality engineer on these at this time. That should bed more than reason enough