Collected My M3 today .... Not a good start!
Collected My M3 today .... Not a good start!
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AndyBrew

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2,774 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Well I collected my M3 this lunchtime and have been gently wafting around enjoying the superb ride and amazing gearbox then.....

I pulled away from a roundabout and the car did not seem to want to change up from 1st so thinking I had put it into manual somehow I nudged the gear lever to put it back into automatic mode, now I have no idea what happened whether it was me or not if I'm being honest, but at this point I noticed the engine management light was on frown

I have got the car gently home and have the dealership ringing me tomorrow however I'm a bit miffed I had a nice evening planned with the wife and will now be taking the trusty Audi for this outing frown

The only other thing I have done is filled the car up with vpower surely that wouldn't cause an issue would it?

So the car is sat on the drive with it's disklok in place, I hope this isn't a sign of things to come!

M3Alan

93 posts

169 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Not a great start to ownership, hope it turns out to be an easy fix for you fella.

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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AndyBrew said:
Well I collected my M3 this lunchtime and have been gently wafting around enjoying the superb ride and amazing gearbox then.....

I pulled away from a roundabout and the car did not seem to want to change up from 1st so thinking I had put it into manual somehow I nudged the gear lever to put it back into automatic mode, now I have no idea what happened whether it was me or not if I'm being honest, but at this point I noticed the engine management light was on frown

I have got the car gently home and have the dealership ringing me tomorrow however I'm a bit miffed I had a nice evening planned with the wife and will now be taking the trusty Audi for this outing frown

The only other thing I have done is filled the car up with vpower surely that wouldn't cause an issue would it?

So the car is sat on the drive with it's disklok in place, I hope this isn't a sign of things to come!
Unless you used VPower Diesel then no, it shouldn't.

Not a great start though mate - at least the dealers should sort it out though.

AndyBrew

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2,774 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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The light is Amber in colour not red and there is no accompanying message saying "reduced power" or anything like that so I assume it's nothing serious, just got the hassle of getting it fixed today, which I'm guessing is going to be a trip to the dealer frown

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

258 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Could be something as simple as a partially discharged battery, especially if the car has stood a while whilst being for sale.

Have you started it since as it may have sorted itself out after going into sleep mode.

Carlton Banks

3,675 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Is it the EML light?

My E46 and E90 used to throw up the same fault if started up after periods of two weeks.

if so, easily sortable.

AndyBrew

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2,774 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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The dealer have seen this once before on another M3 its a small 30p washer something to do with the camshaft basically causing some form of oil starvation #gulp#

They are currently in the process of sourcing me another car to use whilst mine is being repaired.

I am now concerned that some form of damage may have been caused, although I have only done 100 miles and it was very gently driven, thoughts??

playalistic

2,270 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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AndyBrew said:
The dealer have seen this once before on another M3 its a small 30p washer something to do with the camshaft basically causing some form of oil starvation #gulp#

They are currently in the process of sourcing me another car to use whilst mine is being repaired.

I am now concerned that some form of damage may have been caused, although I have only done 100 miles and it was very gently driven, thoughts??
If I heard "oil starvation" I'd be thinking "new engine". But maybe that's just me? argue

Carlton Banks

3,675 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Reject the car then in that case.

Big E 118

2,468 posts

195 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Carlton Banks said:
Reject the car then in that case.
I'd seriously consider this. Well worth a call to an indie specialist to ask their opinion on possible damage caused. It will either give you peace of mind or ammunition to reject the car.

mondie

644 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Good luck with this Andy.

What are the rules in the UK on rejecting a car?

My M5 has just been back at the dealers with some faults with the iDrive system that were traced to water in the boot which drowned some of the modules in the boot floor. BMW warranty doesn't cover water ingress, tossers, they built the damn thing. Only had her 2 weeks.

Let us know how your issues go with the dealer Andy, I feel your pain

Cheers
Simon

playalistic

2,270 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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mondie said:
Good luck with this Andy.

What are the rules in the UK on rejecting a car?

My M5 has just been back at the dealers with some faults with the iDrive system that were traced to water in the boot which drowned some of the modules in the boot floor. BMW warranty doesn't cover water ingress, tossers, they built the damn thing. Only had her 2 weeks.

Let us know how your issues go with the dealer Andy, I feel your pain

Cheers
Simon
Was this an F10M? That's atrocious if so and I wouldn't stand for that. If it's an older model I went through the same thing (albeit on an X3) and this caused me to cancel the warranty in disgust. Anyway, back on topic smile

TotalZ4

72 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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A bad tank of V power is not uncommon,I had some in the M5 and it ran like it had 200bhp.

E30M3SE

8,491 posts

222 months

AndyBrew

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2,774 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Ok, firstly the dealer has been excellent so far, I can't say the same for BMW who seemed to think it was acceptable to provide me with an Enterprise rental car as a replacement for my 1 day old £50k car, the dealer stepped in though and have loaned me a 640i convertible which I hate but thats another story LOL!

I will explain best I can but I am a mechanical numpty so am reciting best I can from what I was told.

The Amber warning light was raised by 2 or 3 different sensor faults, this had occurred on another M3 that the dealer supplied. On the previous M3 the dealer spent a couple of weeks chasing a fault around replacing various sensors only to finally isolate the problem to a washer somewhere in the region of the camshaft. The symptoms of my car are identical so they have submitted something called a PUMA to BMW and were as of this afternoon awaiting authorisation to carry out the repairs which the service manager said was 6 to 8 hours labour.

I have been told I might get the car back before the weekend, failing that Monday, so it's back to waiting again like I was before I picked it up LOL!

mondie

644 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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playalistic said:
Was this an F10M? That's atrocious if so and I wouldn't stand for that. If it's an older model I went through the same thing (albeit on an X3) and this caused me to cancel the warranty in disgust. Anyway, back on topic smile
Its an 07 M5. Sorry Andy for dropping this in your thread, I didn't realise you were talking about a new car. Good luck getting it sorted, sounds like the dealer is doing the right thing so far.

Contigo

3,130 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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AndyBrew said:
Ok, firstly the dealer has been excellent so far, I can't say the same for BMW who seemed to think it was acceptable to provide me with an Enterprise rental car as a replacement for my 1 day old £50k car, the dealer stepped in though and have loaned me a 640i convertible which I hate but thats another story LOL!

I will explain best I can but I am a mechanical numpty so am reciting best I can from what I was told.

The Amber warning light was raised by 2 or 3 different sensor faults, this had occurred on another M3 that the dealer supplied. On the previous M3 the dealer spent a couple of weeks chasing a fault around replacing various sensors only to finally isolate the problem to a washer somewhere in the region of the camshaft. The symptoms of my car are identical so they have submitted something called a PUMA to BMW and were as of this afternoon awaiting authorisation to carry out the repairs which the service manager said was 6 to 8 hours labour.

I have been told I might get the car back before the weekend, failing that Monday, so it's back to waiting again like I was before I picked it up LOL!
Do us all a favour and go and drive the 640i like you've stolen it! biggrin

AndyBrew

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245 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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mondie said:
Its an 07 M5. Sorry Andy for dropping this in your thread, I didn't realise you were talking about a new car. Good luck getting it sorted, sounds like the dealer is doing the right thing so far.
Hey no worries mate smile

AndyBrew

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245 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Contigo said:
Do us all a favour and go and drive the 640i like you've stolen it! biggrin
I'm not sure it's capable of going around a corner in a vigorous fashion I swear it would just fall over!

benji90

151 posts

309 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I had a brand new Z4M coupe about 4 years ago. Picked it up from the dealers. went to the garage, filled it up with 97RON fuel and proceeded to drive 150 miles down to my brothers. Half way there, same thing, EML light on, reduced power. Felt like I was driving a Ford Ka!! Called BMW they sent a mobile mechanic to me at my brothers, who didnt speak a word of English. He reset the system and all its sensors and said everything would be fine (at least I think thats what he said) Drove home, 20 miles up the road, EML light back on, reduced power. Que extreme rant from me behind the wheel as I trundled back up the motorway at 60 mph for 4 hours. Took it straight to the dealers who eventually said it was the "knock" sensor, or modern equivalent, and that sometimes they just go "a bit funny" when you put fuel in it that it doesnt recognise.

Not saying that its going to be the same with yours but it does sound pretty similar. I would say that the car didnt skip a beat from that day forward, and I drove it like I nicked it almost every day!! If it was me, id remember you have a fantastic car, remember that the EML is there to stop the engine being damaged, and look forward to many happy hours of fun in your car wants its back. Its a complicated machine, and as long as the dealer does its job I am sure it will all be fine!