Being trolled by my immobiliser
Discussion
Hey guys, didn't know where else to go to ask, seeing as the internet doesn't have much posted about it.
Clio williams came fitted with some horrible 90's throwback alarm, some scorpian1218t2 thing, it's awful.
Got out of the clio today at my brothers, didnt use the keyfob to lock it as ussual, normally passively arms the imobilser anyhow, does this when i fill it with fuel.
Anyhow, he isnt in, return to the car and its armed, cannot disarm it, no ammount of button presses opening and closing doors works.
Well i have no idea where to turn with this, can only imagine an auto electrician will want my pants down without buying me dinner first.
Any ideas?
Clio williams came fitted with some horrible 90's throwback alarm, some scorpian1218t2 thing, it's awful.
Got out of the clio today at my brothers, didnt use the keyfob to lock it as ussual, normally passively arms the imobilser anyhow, does this when i fill it with fuel.
Anyhow, he isnt in, return to the car and its armed, cannot disarm it, no ammount of button presses opening and closing doors works.
Well i have no idea where to turn with this, can only imagine an auto electrician will want my pants down without buying me dinner first.
Any ideas?
I had some scorpion immob fitted in one of my cars when I bouoght it, had the 'professional' fitting certificate and all.
Ultimately, someone put it in, so it is possible to take it out. How easy this is is dependant on how well it was fitted.
In my case it wasn't especially well fitted, so it was just a case of finding the box of tricks, following the (all black and unmarked) wires to where they were spliced into the car loom and reconnecting the ends of the original wires.
Reckon it took me an hour to remove all trace of it.
In a really well fitted one, you will find that larger lengths of the cars wires will be removed to make it harder to do this (e.g. starter wire cut by the ignition switch and behind the glovebox, and the bit the width of the car removed) so you may find you need a wiring diagram (and some patience) in order to work out which cut wire connects to which, and splice new wire in.
Work carefully and methodically and it is doable.
Just dont blame me if you attempt it yourself and end up in a worse state!
Ultimately, someone put it in, so it is possible to take it out. How easy this is is dependant on how well it was fitted.
In my case it wasn't especially well fitted, so it was just a case of finding the box of tricks, following the (all black and unmarked) wires to where they were spliced into the car loom and reconnecting the ends of the original wires.
Reckon it took me an hour to remove all trace of it.
In a really well fitted one, you will find that larger lengths of the cars wires will be removed to make it harder to do this (e.g. starter wire cut by the ignition switch and behind the glovebox, and the bit the width of the car removed) so you may find you need a wiring diagram (and some patience) in order to work out which cut wire connects to which, and splice new wire in.
Work carefully and methodically and it is doable.
Just dont blame me if you attempt it yourself and end up in a worse state!
I agree with Chris, I had to take an immob system out of a Mk2 Golf once.
It was a mixture of badly fitted wiring and some better fitted stuff. If you can solder then you'll be easily be able to replace and repair any of the wiring. I just traced then chopped out all the wiring, put in repairs and it was back to being as insecure as they can be!
It was a mixture of badly fitted wiring and some better fitted stuff. If you can solder then you'll be easily be able to replace and repair any of the wiring. I just traced then chopped out all the wiring, put in repairs and it was back to being as insecure as they can be!
+2
- me and the missus bought a 90's Merc R129 SL with a similar hideous / unreliable / dodgy system in it.
The wire trails went from the unit under the dash, to the igniton switch, to the fusebox, to under the bonnet, to right back inside the driver's door to the courtesy / puddle lamp, and back into the boot to the battery too.
Took me an afternoon, lots of trim removal and re-soldering to get rid of it. However, at the same time of ripping out trim, I also found a dead / defunct Tracker Unit with a remote back-up battery too!
Anyway, I ended up with a huge spaghetti of wiring and control boxes on my workshop bench at the end of it all (including lots of in-car stereo hideousness consisting of rakes of random wiring and scotchlocks too that I removed at the same time) and eventually, all was well and back to standard.
Just takes time, patience, some soldering and the conviction to finish the job without being too scared and overwhelmed! It's all just methodical, obvious steps once you get into it and begin tracing / following each wire.
Good luck.
- me and the missus bought a 90's Merc R129 SL with a similar hideous / unreliable / dodgy system in it.
The wire trails went from the unit under the dash, to the igniton switch, to the fusebox, to under the bonnet, to right back inside the driver's door to the courtesy / puddle lamp, and back into the boot to the battery too.
Took me an afternoon, lots of trim removal and re-soldering to get rid of it. However, at the same time of ripping out trim, I also found a dead / defunct Tracker Unit with a remote back-up battery too!
Anyway, I ended up with a huge spaghetti of wiring and control boxes on my workshop bench at the end of it all (including lots of in-car stereo hideousness consisting of rakes of random wiring and scotchlocks too that I removed at the same time) and eventually, all was well and back to standard.
Just takes time, patience, some soldering and the conviction to finish the job without being too scared and overwhelmed! It's all just methodical, obvious steps once you get into it and begin tracing / following each wire.
Good luck.
Mine looks professionally installed, in 2001. Big problem is, its now stuck at my brothers, undriveable. Is there a way of getting the system to disarm without removing it?
Oh just to add, been told my scorpian it is obsolete so has to be removed which will probably equal a big bill from auto electrician as im sure this one will of been dificulty installed.
It was nice to talk to someone nice on the phone willing to help, but being so blunt to tell me that the system is just broken and has to be removed is rather annoying. I will never buy an aftermarket alarm, if a car i purchase has one from now on, i'll burn the car out instead of having to go through this hassle again.
Oh just to add, been told my scorpian it is obsolete so has to be removed which will probably equal a big bill from auto electrician as im sure this one will of been dificulty installed.
It was nice to talk to someone nice on the phone willing to help, but being so blunt to tell me that the system is just broken and has to be removed is rather annoying. I will never buy an aftermarket alarm, if a car i purchase has one from now on, i'll burn the car out instead of having to go through this hassle again.
Edited by MrBrightSi on Thursday 12th July 16:06
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