BMW M535i - Would you?
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dave stew

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1,502 posts

196 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I have been toying with the idea of a usuable classic. I'd really like a 20v ur quattro, but I understand that parts are virtually unobtainable. Next choice would be a 993 C2, nice car, still get virtually all the bits to keep it running, but very cramped and I need to get the kids in.

That leaves my other favourite, the E24 BMW M535i. Most are quite expensive now, but I understand that you can get parts still to keep them running, and unlike the hallowed E28 M5, there is a reasonable choice of RHD ones to go at.

Clocked this one over at the classified - am I mad? http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2295185.htm

V12 Migaloo

1,152 posts

175 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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No. You're not mad. Beemers from this era where the best, understated, elegent without a hint of bling. Bit pricey though...

RedWhiteMonkey

9,065 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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dave stew said:
I have been toying with the idea of a usuable classic. I'd really like a 20v ur quattro, but I understand that parts are virtually unobtainable. Next choice would be a 993 C2, nice car, still get virtually all the bits to keep it running, but very cramped and I need to get the kids in.

That leaves my other favourite, the E24 BMW M535i. Most are quite expensive now, but I understand that you can get parts still to keep them running, and unlike the hallowed E28 M5, there is a reasonable choice of RHD ones to go at.

Clocked this one over at the classified - am I mad? http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2295185.htm
That's not a M535i (5 series) its a M635csi (6 series), am I missing something?

varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
dave stew said:
I have been toying with the idea of a usuable classic. I'd really like a 20v ur quattro, but I understand that parts are virtually unobtainable. Next choice would be a 993 C2, nice car, still get virtually all the bits to keep it running, but very cramped and I need to get the kids in.

That leaves my other favourite, the E24 BMW M535i. Most are quite expensive now, but I understand that you can get parts still to keep them running, and unlike the hallowed E28 M5, there is a reasonable choice of RHD ones to go at.

Clocked this one over at the classified - am I mad? http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2295185.htm
That's not a M535i (5 series) its a M635csi (6 series), am I missing something?
Those alltypecarz people are very funny. I tried buying a Stag off them, it didn't work out. I would not be surprised if they changed the add.

The 635CSi is a different car to a 535i, it has the 24v M5 engine.

Yes, would get a 535i (preferably a sport with the LSD), the Alpina version (an upgraded sport) is particularly nice however I would rather have a 530i or 540i with the 32v V8. Sadly 540i manuals are very rare. I don't think these are expensive cars, a nice 535i was on here recently for £2k, certainly much cheaper then a 993 or quattro. Friend had a E24 525tds, it was pretty easy to look after/fix. All standard BMW really, and they don't seem to rust badly; not like E30's, anyway.

4rephill

5,165 posts

207 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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varsas said:
The 635CSi is a different car to a 535i, it has the 24v M5 engine.
nono

The 635CSi does not have the 24 valve M5 engine!, it has the M30 3.5 litre, 12 valve straight six (as does the M535i).

The M635CSi came with the M5's 24 valve engine. (M88 engines in the early M635Csi and S38 engines in the later cars).

varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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4rephill said:
varsas said:
The 635CSi is a different car to a 535i, it has the 24v M5 engine.
nono

The 635CSi does not have the 24 valve M5 engine!, it has the M30 3.5 litre, 12 valve straight six (as does the M535i).

The M635CSi came with the M5's 24 valve engine. (M88 engines in the early M635Csi and S38 engines in the later cars).
Really? Didn't know the M635CSi and the 635CSi where different things...oh.

dave stew

Original Poster:

1,502 posts

196 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Oops, the legendary PH pendants have got me - I meant M635i.

barchetta_boy

2,513 posts

261 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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No such thing as an M635i... there was the 635CSi and the M635CSi aka the M6...

Bayerischer

194 posts

176 months

0a

24,133 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I have driven plenty of M cars and been driven in almost all the others, including the e60 m5 very well at high speed.

A chap up my road has a minty minty m535 and took me out in it. My favourite 5 series, I will own one soon, I can only imagine what the e28 m5 is like.

Things that stood out: turbine engine, wind noise, massive glass area, noise from under the car as the surface changed, the speed with which the car covered ground (okay an ex police driver, what a joy to cover ground in).

I will have one soon.

RedWhiteMonkey

9,065 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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dave stew said:
Oops, the legendary PH pendants have got me - I meant M635i.
I honestly wasn't being pedantic, I was just confused that your topic referred to one of these:



and then your posting referred to one of these:



I'm not a fully fledged BMW beard.

lowdrag

13,181 posts

242 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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I owned an M635 back in the 80's as my business car, and the family fitted in with ease. They were 11 and 9 at the time, but our luggage and all paraphenalia for our holidays was swallowed up.Running costs weren't exceptional at the time, fuel consumption reasonable and the only problem I encountered was at 13 months when a cylinder head stud snapped requiring a new head. Despite being a month out of warranty, BMW picked up the bill. The car was at one minute a lamb, the next a real animal, and if you are lucky enough to buy one you'll have a ball. Just be very careful with the right foot in the wet though.

dave stew

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1,502 posts

196 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Thanks for the advice on the car - quite fancy one.

Unfortunately I made a typo (God help me if it was a spelling or grammar error) and I was predictably slaughtered from some members. Thanks for that.

ajb85

1,124 posts

171 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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dave stew said:
Thanks for the advice on the car - quite fancy one.

Unfortunately I made a typo (God help me if it was a spelling or grammar error) and I was predictably slaughtered from some members. Thanks for that.
Slaughtered, really??

The M535i is just a 535i with M sport suspension, right? And the M635csi a different beast altogether?

That particular car does seem very dear. Obviously, the M is the flagship model, but at £10k I'd expect it to be nothing less than a museum piece. And if it genuinely is a museum piece, I wouldn't want to use it, prefer something a little scruffier!


deltashad

6,731 posts

226 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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I've always had a thing about the e28 M5 (the one without spoilers and using the M635csi 24v/v engine).

10k for an M635 doesn't seem expensive. Prices have been rising. I'd love to own one.
My father took me to Park lane BMW in '81 to collect a new one , just the standard csi, it was incredibly cool.

But I'd search for a nice e28 M5.

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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I'm confused as to which car the op is interested in but here goes. An m635csi is a great car but beware the cost of preventative timing chain replacement at 100k mile intervals and sticky front brake calipers. The m535i has the 218 bhp engine of the (non m) 635csi and is a quick usable 4 door. The e28 (saloon) is lighter than the e24 (coupe), but you pays your money... Low mileage m635s tend to make more money than m5s but less rhd m5s were imported than m635s. Prices of average cars are about equal. I have an alpina b9 (635). With manifold and exhaust this makes 280bhp on the rolling road and seats 2 adults and 2 kids in comfort. Overall the m535i is a practical, quick and cost effective car to run. The 'true' m's are a little more specialist and expensive on all counts, but have the edge on performance.

bob1179

14,138 posts

238 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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My biggest regret is selling my immaculate 1985 M535i a few years ago. It was a two owner car, full history, manual H pattern gearbox with full mushroom hide, sports seats and all the extras. It was an expensive car when it was new.

I sold it to guy in Holland for three times what I originally paid for it. It may not be the fastest car in the world but it handled beautifully, made a stunning noise when you out your foot down and had bags of character, plus it wasn't that expensive to run.

I'm flogging my Aston at the moment and I could do worse than replacing it with another classic Bee Em.

Buy a good one and it will reward you in a way a modern car could never do.

smile

Motown Junk

2,041 posts

246 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Had an E12 M535i many moons ago.

Dogleg box, LSD and Colway remoulds: Hilarious fun and sounded fantastic!

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mickyveloce

1,035 posts

265 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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I had an E28 Alpina B10 some years ago .it too had a dog leg box and was a hoot to drive . Great memories !!



griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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mickyveloce said:
I had an E28 Alpina B10 some years ago .it too had a dog leg box and was a hoot to drive . Great memories !!
Was that original? All the manual B9s and B10s I've seen or know of have the 5 speed overdrive manual box. Interesting...