The Stuttgart Snotter - 944
The Stuttgart Snotter - 944
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benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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As my normal car detonated last week I thought I'd better get back into snotter territory so picked myself up this very early (1982) Porsche 944 Lux manual.

It wasn't quite as good as the advert made out.

1) Told the headgasket done - head not been off since it was built.
2) Passenger window not working, just a switch - piece of paper buried in the file saying it had been diagnosed by a Porsche specialist as a knackered window motor and the owner refused replacement part based on cost.
3) Advertised as solid apart from a tiny bubble on door - turns out that it is rustier than the prow of the Titanic. Today.

Still, it looked a little forlorn so I bought it anyway.

Car being driven to new home by friend:



When it arrived home after a pretty low stress run it overheated and shot the entire contents of its coolant out onto the underside of the bonnet, disintegrating the bonnet insulation and covering the entire engine bay in crap. I was not particularly thrilled about that. Turned out the fan wasn't kicking in so as soon as it was switched off it just boiled itself. After a lot of head scratching, shouting, crying and cigarette smoking it was isolated to a faulty radiator fan switch. Out came the air box, mass airflow sensor and misc other bits to get access. New one in, radiator fine. Total cost £7 plus the harrowing 3 hours in a car to Eurocarparts in Bradford.

Time for a wash. I'm far too important for that so I put a kitchen knife to my daughter's Barbie and she knew what she had to do.





Just been out for a cheeky 50 mile blast and all is ok-ish. Wheels need balancing and I reckon pretty much every bush is shot so time to invest a few bob in a full polybush set. No real urgency for that though just yet, time to enjoy some nice, easy snotting.

Dalto123

3,205 posts

192 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Quite brave to make a Porsche your 'snotter' thumbup. Even in the best of times my dads 944 S2 cab which was in v good condition was quite expensive to run lol. Good luck though and keep us posted on progress biggrin

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Oh I have a very big bag of brave pills wink

Another Fluffer

3,888 posts

194 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Looks great!

Bigger bag than me!

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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I'll be doing pretty much everything to it myself. Parts vary between very reasonable to very unreasonable. I'm hoping to replace more of the reasonable than the unreasonable smile

dome

688 posts

286 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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I picked up one of a similar vintage a few weeks ago. Get yourself onto TIPEC if you haven't already, there is a lot of info on there. My passenger window didn't work either, try taking the switches apart and cleaning the contacts inside them, worked for me although it is still a bit slow.

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Cheers Dome, I'm already on it actually, they've already helped me with a load of little niggles. Good blokes.

Dr G

15,944 posts

271 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Still a really nice looking car, aged very well.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Nice writeup. wink

I'm surprised by the rust - a mate of mine bought a 944 for £500 which had a foot square portion of bare metal where someone was repainting a section of the car for some reason. He just left it for the best part of 18 months and while it got a bit of surface rust it didn't turn into a hideous flaky mess like I thought it would.

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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The upper bodywork is actually pretty strong on most 944s, the problems are with the sills and mounts in the engine bay, plus battery tray and scuttle. Mine is what I would award 55/100. That said it has been bought to snot so I'm not going to be addressing any of the bodywork unless for safety/MOT reasons.

I've also decided to enter it in the HERO Throckmorton Challenge which I'm already ebtered for in another car. Should be interesting to see how the little brute does against a similar aged 911SC, older 911S, misc Lotuses etc. My navigator is concerned that the (non power) steering will be too heavy. I'm sort of 50/50 on the subject but have had a low speed twisty play in it this morning up in the Dales and I think my arms can handle it. At 20mph+ the handling is an utter joy, even though it needs a lot of bushes doing.

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Oops.

Edited by benjj on Saturday 21st July 11:09

benjj

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Saturday 21st July 2012
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Oops

Jw Vw

4,920 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Great snotter thumbup

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Double + a bit.

Seems the early cars (pre December 83) are in demand because they qualify for various rallies/races and are a pretty handy piece of kit in the tight bits.

benjj

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192 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Just a quick update for anyone interested...

After a good month of driving fun and commuting in the little snotter I took it along to my local super duper mechanic for a health check.

Overall the car was in ok shape considering it is fast approaching its 31st birthday. There were, of course, quite a few little niggles that needed attention. I got the list of parts required and did two things. Firstly I was my normal lazy self and just wen to the biggest 944 parts supplier and did a hypothetical order online. £912 inc VAT. Then I did something I've never done before - I actually really shopped for what I needed. The result, 2 days later, was everything I needed inc VAT and delivery for £422.

Then the expensive bit started - she had 60 hours of work. Even though Mr Super Duper Mechanic did me the deal of the century it was still quite a chunk of change. She had:

New front shocks
New front top mounts (v expensive, much more than I'd anticipated)
Rebuilt calipers all round
New pads
High temp racing brake fluid
All brake lines changed for cunifer from copper
Rear wheel bearings
Oil cooler seals changed
Full oil, coolant and fluid change
Driveshaft seals
Transmission oil change
Fuel lines replaced and filter changed
Throttle position sensor replaced

That said the car now runs and drives like a new car. I absolutely love it and drive her in rain, wind, whatever North Yorkshire decides to throw at me.

I also decided a bit of competition would do her good so I entered her into the HERO Throckmorton Challenge last week. The car stood up to an absolute beasting with aplomb. I've never driven a car as hard in my entire life. She handled it with ease and then monstered the 200 miles home in the pouring rain on the motorway.

A few pics:







I've now got a bit of post rally fettling to do. The passenger door card fell off, stereo surround broke off, front valance got a beating and needs refitting, exhaust silencer needs refitting, driver seatbelt mechanism broken, passenger window motor went bang. Should keep me busy this weekend. Also got to take all the stickers off and return her to a useable daily look.

God I love this little car.

AllyBee

336 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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I've also just bought a 944, given the price I was assuming it needed a few things doing, my plan is to tackle some of the more pressing ones over the winter and then see how I go.

I've bought myself a manual and a few of the smaller more obvious bits. She's going into a local specialist for belts, waterpump and front engine oil seals next week.

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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AllyBee said:
I've also just bought a 944, given the price I was assuming it needed a few things doing, my plan is to tackle some of the more pressing ones over the winter and then see how I go.

I've bought myself a manual and a few of the smaller more obvious bits. She's going into a local specialist for belts, waterpump and front engine oil seals next week.
On the whole they're lovely cars to work on. Only a few jobs (like changing the oil cooler seals) are a nightmare.

Make sure you run it as often as possible, mine seems to like a good 100 miles a week to keep everything nice and tight.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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How many miles has it done? And how much was the labour for all those parts?

benjj

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6,787 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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It has done 96k backed up with MOT and service. The labour, well you can work that out for yourself!

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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benjj said:
It has done 96k backed up with MOT and service. The labour, well you can work that out for yourself!
Ah... safe to say well into 4 figures then yikes