Old names for new cars

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Futuramic

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1,763 posts

205 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I've noticed, on occasion, that certain members of the older generation insist on calling the Vauxhall Vectra a Cavalier. They may be blameless as the Mark 1 looked similar; but the very last of the Cavaliers were N or P reg so haven't been available for at least sixteen years. I would have though the would have time to adjust.

Oddly enough I have heard the Focus called an Escort too. I know the Escort name was considered iconic, but again they haven't been in production for about ten years (in the UK anyway) so it is odd the new name hasn't caught on.

This doesn't seem to affect other cars though. I've never heard a Primera called a Bluebird. Has anyone else come across this phenomenon?

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

182 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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No, I've never come across this. I doubt you have either, you just wanted a piece of the action where we shake our heads sadly at the non-nerds.

Hammy13

57 posts

141 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Can't say I have mate...

ajprice

27,485 posts

196 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Some people still call the Insignia a Vectra when the Insignia has been around since 2008 wink

blugnu

1,523 posts

241 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I sometimes use 'Escort' to mean 'mid-size Ford' and did occasionally refer to my Mondeo as a Sierra. This happens more often when I am tired, and I suppose I am using a less 'active' part of my brain where the names for things were laid down initially.

It would also depend on how your internal system for naming things works I suspect. If you learned as a kid that 'things that look like that are called an Escort' you would be less likely to make the mistake of calling a Focus an Escort than if your internal system had the rule 'a mid-sized Ford is called an Escort'

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I've never encountered this.

I have encountered the opposite though, where people have referred to the Cavalier as a Vectra and Carlton as an Omega. Because as Opels, that's what they were called.

This is why its handy to mingle with people who know their W124 from their E31, there's no confusion over which generation of the same named thing you're all talking about. wink

marmitemania

1,571 posts

142 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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We have quite a few LDV Maxus at work and they are always by virtually everybody always refered to as Sherpas.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

182 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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On the Vectra/Insignia thing, I've sometimes referred to the Insignia as "whatever-they-call-the-Vectra-nowadays". I don't find "Insignia" a very catchy name, it just doesn't work for me.

MycroftWard

5,983 posts

213 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I've never experienced this phenomenon.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

151 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I have made the mistake with older Vectras, which merge into the Cavalier period in my head. Most cars I am interested in don't have proper names anyway. Only once had someone confuse my A6 with a 100. To be fair some people are still calling Snickers Marathons.

ajprice

27,485 posts

196 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Rostfritt said:
I have made the mistake with older Vectras, which merge into the Cavalier period in my head. Most cars I am interested in don't have proper names anyway. Only once had someone confuse my A6 with a 100. To be fair some people are still calling Snickers Marathons.
<geek> The first A6 was a facelift of the 100 </geek>

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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ajprice said:
Rostfritt said:
I have made the mistake with older Vectras, which merge into the Cavalier period in my head. Most cars I am interested in don't have proper names anyway. Only once had someone confuse my A6 with a 100. To be fair some people are still calling Snickers Marathons.
<geek> The first A6 was a facelift of the 100 </geek>
The performance version of which was badged "S4", somewhat confusingly given the evolution of that badge since.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

182 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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ajprice said:
<geek> The first A6 was a facelift of the 100 </geek>
Why did they do that? Seems an odd move.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,255 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Did you know that when GM consolidated the Vauxall/Opel names that Astra was the only Vauxhall survivor?


krunchkin

2,209 posts

141 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Insignia always reminds me of that crappy range of deodorant, aftershave etc that was a kind of forerunner to Lynx. Marketed using "All over now" by The Stones as the hook song

carlove

7,564 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Once someone called my 159 a 156, shoking!

ajprice

27,485 posts

196 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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100


A6

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

182 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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krunchkin said:
Insignia always reminds me of that crappy range of deodorant, aftershave etc that was a kind of forerunner to Lynx. Marketed using "All over now" by The Stones as the hook song
"Try Insignia, create a buzz not a hum!"

andym1603

1,812 posts

172 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Never heard of this for a model, but I still call a Nissan (hut) a Datsun if that is the same.

vladcjelli

2,969 posts

158 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Rostfritt said:
To be fair some people are still calling Snickers Marathons.
Quite right too.

And I refuse to recognise any other name for Opal Fruits.

But arbitrarily changing the name of something, and giving a new model a new name are not the same thing.