Biggest depreciation on a "newish" car that you've avoided?
Biggest depreciation on a "newish" car that you've avoided?
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seopher

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301 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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I subscribe to the "nearly new" philosophy, buying something in warranty but having let someone else shoulder the initial lump of depreciation.

Without getting drawn into theoretical depreciation purchases, nor the merits of shedding, I wondered what the best "in warranty but huge depreciation sidestep" that people on here have bought.

Example, my 370z was a sniff under £34k new, but bought at 18 months old with 11k on the clock for under £21k. So someone else shouldered that initial £13k drop.

Given how fast some other marques can depreciate, I wondered what the biggest lump that someone here has allowed other owner to shoulder is.

Elysium

16,569 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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This is a bit of a myth in my experience. If the initial purchaser bought sensibly then they would have paid well below the list price.

With a 12.5% discount the car would have been £29.75k new. Retained value at 3 years would be 40% or £13.6k. So actual depreciation from purchase price is £16.15k or £5.38k per year.


fridgedoctor

220 posts

180 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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Hmmm, wasn't such a myth from my side. I ordered a 3 series convertible new on an 03.

Hated the seating / pedal layout, and after 6000mls I traded it for an S80(which I loved).

I lost 6 grand in 3 calendar months. And I didnt pay list for the BMW either. :-(

I'm drunk, and I think off topic. Sorrrry

edo

16,699 posts

286 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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late 06 M6 bought in 2011 from main dealer with 25k on the clock for 29k.

List price was ITRO £91k.

cheddar

4,637 posts

195 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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I buy, on average, 3 new/nearly new cars a year, almost all from main dealers, I make a lot of polite but low offers, every few months a dealer says "Yes". I own them for 3 to 6 months and try to sell for the same as I pay, usually it works.

Last 12 months:

Subaru WRX, purchased brand new, $47,600, paid $41,000. Owned 3 months, sold for $42,000

Toyota Hiace - Purchased brand New - $48,000 list, paid $37,000, now, 12 months and 25,000 miles later still worth $35,000

BMW 123D M Sport Coupe, $78,200 list, ex demo, 2400 miles, 11 months old, paid $50,000

VW Amarok Highline, loaded, $68,500 new, 5 months old, ex demo, 2,800 miles paid $45,000

Edited by cheddar on Sunday 29th July 00:42

Dilligaf10

2,431 posts

231 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Bought my A8 at two years old at £29500, list price new was £81000.

£50k depreciation with only 30k miles on the clock.

4key

11,502 posts

169 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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cheddar said:
I buy, on average, 3 new/nearly new cars a year, almost all from main dealers, I make a lot of polite but low offers, every few months a dealer says "Yes". I own them for 3 to 6 months and try to sell for the same as I pay, usually it works.
I would love to do this and am more than capable of hunting out the right stuff and getting the right price when its moved on, but I only have one car so would need to own another for when I'm looking for my next purchase. Drives me crazy that all I seem to do is find my mates bargains banghead

Scuffers

20,887 posts

295 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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last one I brought was an Audi S5 with 300 miles on the clock.

Looking at the original purchase invoice, I got it for some £22K less.

smiffy180

6,021 posts

171 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Bought my focus 3 month old. Retail new at just over £20k. 7000 on clock bought for 10k. 10k in 3 months! yikes

GT03ROB

13,955 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Moral here seems to be don't buy big Audis new. Shocking depreciation eek

MJK 24

5,670 posts

257 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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GT03ROB said:
Moral here seems to be don't buy big Audis new. Shocking depreciation eek
Correct! However we do need some people (business users I suspect) to make such a purchase so these vehicles are around in sufficient numbers to be available to Joe Public a few years down the line.

DSLiverpool

15,940 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Ok it's 4 years but is a BMW AUC car with warranty
760i 38k miles £19k with tax new over £90k (in theory)
I need to spend £700 to make it like a new car.

Trikster

908 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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My Spyder would have listed at just under £57k, bought it from main dealer at 7 months old/4k miles for £44k, so much for slow depreciating Porsches - and looking at the new 911's £100k list, £79k forecourt price for 8 month old cars... hmm

That said at the higher end of the market AM takes the biscuit, even now they are offering £40k+ off new Virages....

isv

168 posts

235 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Trikster said:
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That said at the higher end of the market AM takes the biscuit, even now they are offering £40k+ off new Virages....
That makes a lot of sense as a new buy. Mate of mine who works for AM recently told me that AM were offering cars to their dealers at 50% discount off RRP... I didn't think it could be true... But if you can get 40k+ off a Virage then perhaps he was correct after all?

ClaphamGT3

11,952 posts

264 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Mrs Clapham's E63AMG cost its 1st owner £103k in Sept 2007 (I've got the invoice from MBWest London).

I paid £29950 in Sept 2010.

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

177 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Mrs Clapham's E63AMG cost its 1st owner £103k in Sept 2007 (I've got the invoice from MBWest London).

I paid £29950 in Sept 2010.
Holy st!! 1 year's depreciation on that thing would keep me in cars for over 15 years!!

ClaphamGT3

11,952 posts

264 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Liquid Tuna said:
Holy st!! 1 year's depreciation on that thing would keep me in cars for over 15 years!!

The true horror is that I bought it from a dealer (albeit got him down from £34995) so God alone can comprehend the savagery of the kick in the nuts that the original owner took when he traded it in.

jontymo

836 posts

171 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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Got my 6month old Cayman R from an official Porsche centre.

Was priced at 60k new i paid just under 45k - 15k loss in 6 months and since then used prices have gone up!!!!

Jw Vw

4,898 posts

184 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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MJK 24 said:
GT03ROB said:
Moral here seems to be don't buy big Audis new. Shocking depreciation eek
Correct! However we do need some people (business users I suspect) to make such a purchase so these vehicles are around in sufficient numbers to be available to Joe Public a few years down the line.
yes

Buster73

5,475 posts

174 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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911 C2

Bought pre reg with13 miles on the clock direct from an OPC.

Retail including a long list of options £74k

Purchased for £58k

Over £1k pre mile depreciation.

Maybe the winner.