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God that Ferrari is spectacular... Though I would be happy with a 550 Maranello for 15% of the cost!
730bhp is rather unnecessary and requires amazing electrons just to get that power down and keep it on the road.
The 310 with 565bhp (reasonable to assume over 600bhp+ with a future BR exhaust system..?) would be more than enough and just as quick in the hands of mere mortals like me.
730bhp is rather unnecessary and requires amazing electrons just to get that power down and keep it on the road.
The 310 with 565bhp (reasonable to assume over 600bhp+ with a future BR exhaust system..?) would be more than enough and just as quick in the hands of mere mortals like me.
George H said:
I wonder if they will ever make a beautiful car again?
Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder... But I agree with you, the aerodynmacists are in charge of the sketch pad these days. The Calaifornia >could< have been the beauty as it didn't have to be the no-compromise sports car, it's a boulevardier. However, turns out its not that pretty but still incredibly fast. Guess that's what you get from Ferrari. Want beauty? Aston or Maserati are about it. Jags are looking good too.
yeti said:
Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder... But I agree with you, the aerodynmacists are in charge of the sketch pad these days.
The Calaifornia >could< have been the beauty as it didn't have to be the no-compromise sports car, it's a boulevardier. However, turns out its not that pretty but still incredibly fast. Guess that's what you get from Ferrari. Want beauty? Aston or Maserati are about it. Jags are looking good too.
Well they seem to be struggling to create a design that's even pleasant to look at, let along beautiful! The last good looking Ferraris imo were the 550/575 and the 355. The 360 CS looks alright too.The Calaifornia >could< have been the beauty as it didn't have to be the no-compromise sports car, it's a boulevardier. However, turns out its not that pretty but still incredibly fast. Guess that's what you get from Ferrari. Want beauty? Aston or Maserati are about it. Jags are looking good too.
As for Jags - have you seen that new XK-RS?! Utterly hideous, looks like it's been driven through Halfords. As Mr. G says, they're a poor man's Aston
George H said:
As for Jags - have you seen that new XK-RS?! Utterly hideous, looks like it's been driven through Halfords. As Mr. G says, they're a poor man's Aston
The problem is though, which Aston could keep up with it ?I like it, its a shame they lose so much money. It is also a very good car from what i hear.
cayman-black said:
The problem is though, which Aston could keep up with it ?
I like it, its a shame they lose so much money. It is also a very good car from what i hear.
According to this, it's very close between the Jag and the DBS. The Jag may be more powerful but is also almost 200kg heavier.I like it, its a shame they lose so much money. It is also a very good car from what i hear.
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/aston_martin_db...
cayman-black said:
The problem is though, which Aston could keep up with it ?
Mine 
Anyone can bolt forced induction onto anything, classical automotive engineering prowess lies in naturally aspirated engines with their linear delivery and lovely noise. Look at Ferrari (F40 excepted which was a for racing reasons) and Lamborghini (don't look at Porsche or it spoils my analogy!)
Forced induction is the cheap route to power or the only route to obscene power and has its place of course; the new McLaren and most Hypercars. But a chavved up Jag against a lovely old-school V12? Bah humbug, I'll take the less powerful normally aspirated engine please.
I had a good look at the XKRS Rob & Molly drove when EVO tested their Vantage S earlier in the year.
Amazing performance (because of the supercharger and active suspension)
Awful build quality, styling and cosmetics (Plastic fake CF inlay in leather seats
)
I also went to the Launch/Driving day of the 500 BHP XKR at Gaydon
They really are VERY capable cars
I've had 2 Astons since though
I'd like to see a reliable well engineered (to my expecatations ) super charger solution for the V8V
But I know serveral have tired and not really achieved it.
Hence why I favour Bamfords route to power.
I'm not a purist like Lewis, it's all about the reliability for me
That F12 does look interesting though
Amazing performance (because of the supercharger and active suspension)
Awful build quality, styling and cosmetics (Plastic fake CF inlay in leather seats
)I also went to the Launch/Driving day of the 500 BHP XKR at Gaydon
They really are VERY capable cars
I've had 2 Astons since though
I'd like to see a reliable well engineered (to my expecatations
) super charger solution for the V8VBut I know serveral have tired and not really achieved it.
Hence why I favour Bamfords route to power.
I'm not a purist like Lewis, it's all about the reliability for me
That F12 does look interesting though
mikey k said:
I'm not a purist like Lewis, it's all about the reliability for me
Not sure if my 'purist' thing just makes me backwards though Fast cars have ebnclosed bodywork, turbos and robotic manuals, no doubt about it.But I want three pedals, a normally aspirated V8/V12 and the roof off, that's where the fun lies for me
George H said:
...As for Jags - have you seen that new XK-RS?! Utterly hideous, looks like it's been driven through Halfords. As Mr. G says, they're a poor man's Aston
Oh Georgeous, you are such a girly drama queen.Admittedly, most of us on this forum will prefer the look of the Aston, but you may be in a minority of people that would call the jag 'ugly'
yeti said:
Not sure if my 'purist' thing just makes me backwards though Fast cars have ebnclosed bodywork, turbos and robotic manuals, no doubt about it.
But I want three pedals, a normally aspirated V8/V12 and the roof off, that's where the fun lies for me
Yes, exactly. Ferrari seen to want to compete with Nissan to make drivable track cars. I honestly couldn't care less, it's not about going as fast as possible through some corner for me, it's about having fun. Fast cars have ebnclosed bodywork, turbos and robotic manuals, no doubt about it.But I want three pedals, a normally aspirated V8/V12 and the roof off, that's where the fun lies for me
Fair play to those who do though. They can have their Ferrari / Nissan GTR / track car, as long as Aston don't go that way I'm happy.
mikey k said:
He's not too far off on the XKRS though
They couldn't have made those little slot thingys on the side of the car look any more of an after thought could they? Looks like it's just been glued on when they realised the car looks too similar to the regular XKR.Edited by mikey k on Wednesday 1st August 02:23
Those vents, whilst they may have purpose, are ugly. Same with the ridiculous rear wing too. Don't even get me started on the front splitter!
If I posted up an unflattering matt Aston picture I'm sure I would receive the same reaction....we all have an off day
Nope, still don't agree that it's either hideous or ugly.
The vents should be black, as per my contrasting ethos.
Still prefer the Aston looks, mind you, just having difficulty with the adjectives
Nope, still don't agree that it's either hideous or ugly.
The vents should be black, as per my contrasting ethos.
Still prefer the Aston looks, mind you, just having difficulty with the adjectives
Jockman said:
Nope, still don't agree that it's either hideous or ugly.
'Overstyled' would be my choice of adjective. I think they needed to differentiate from standard models as much as possible as it's so much more money than a standard Jag coupe. This was what they came up with rather than fabricate new body panels. Jag are a >ahem< budget company!The fundamantal style of the car is sound of course being a Callum sketch. Shame you can't get the sleek lines of the XK8 with the nuttiness of that powerplant. Though I would imagine a standard XKR is powerful enough in 5.0SC form on that chassis, this was perhaps a step too far to grab headlines.
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