Can someone please tell me the point of this?
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Why buy this, or even build it in the first place? http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
When, with a little haggling you could have bought this for what the Colvin would cost to buy and finish to a point that when you started it up in a public place people would burst out laughing because it sounded like a 1600cc Beelte and not a 3200cc flat six with 231BHP?
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3876354.htm
When, with a little haggling you could have bought this for what the Colvin would cost to buy and finish to a point that when you started it up in a public place people would burst out laughing because it sounded like a 1600cc Beelte and not a 3200cc flat six with 231BHP?
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3876354.htm
I wasn't suggesting it was anything other than legal, but, personally cannot see the point of it, everyone to their own opinion, I've got mine and you yours. It's just not going to fool anyone when you (a) start it up and it sounds like a Beetle, or, (b) get left standing at the lights by some ned in a 1.2 Corsa and fluffy dice, is it? Be honest?
Sell everything apart from the only genuine bit about the car, the Porsche Tacho, and buy yourself some respect in a prpoer 911.
Sell everything apart from the only genuine bit about the car, the Porsche Tacho, and buy yourself some respect in a prpoer 911.
doogz said:
"100% legal!"
"Everything works, except a few simple things, one being the Porsche tachometer that should be powered by a 6 cylinder, but instead is only getting a feed from a 4 pot beetle engine!"
So it's totally legal. Although the mileage it's showing is wrong, because the tacho isn't working.
"Everything works, except a few simple things, one being the Porsche tachometer that should be powered by a 6 cylinder, but instead is only getting a feed from a 4 pot beetle engine!"
So it's totally legal. Although the mileage it's showing is wrong, because the tacho isn't working.
The tacho might be mechanical and take it's feed by cable from the back of the dynamo?
doogz said:
jagnet said:
Because you can, and for many people the build is the fun part.
I suspect you're right, actually.doogz said:
So it's totally legal. Although the mileage it's showing is wrong, because the tacho isn't working.
I suspect the odometer doesn't take its feed from the rev gauge.cjb1 said:
Why buy this, or even build it in the first place?
Because it looks just like a 911 but has a fraction of the running costs.Because most people won't know what a genuine flat 6 sounds like and will think it's a 911.
Because it is far less likely to suffer from serious mechanical issues than a genuine 911 for the same money.
I wouldn't buy it but I understand why someone would.
A point that I cannot disagree with, but why not build a kit car that has it's own personality and doesn't copy or pretend to be something it is actually a long way from, something like a Quantum?.
jagnet said:
Because you can, and for many people the build is the fun part.
doogz said:
So it's totally legal. Although the mileage it's showing is wrong, because the tacho isn't working.
I suspect the odometer doesn't take its feed from the rev gauge.cjb1 said:
Sell everything apart from the only genuine bit about the car, the Porsche Tacho, and buy yourself some respect in a prpoer 911
Respect? So someone that slapped down their company director salary and said "I'll have one of those" deserves more respect than the guy that laboured for hours in their garage putting together a well built Covin, overcoming the many issues that such a build throws up.cjb1 said:
The tacho might be mechanical and take it's feed by cable from the back of the dynamo?
But then some will never understand the challenges.I run a 911 of the era that this 'imposter' is meant to be and dispute every comment you have just made as absolute drivvle, do you, or have you ever owned a 911?
The people who the owner of this Covin would want to impress are petrolheads surely? Do you think that when the low revving four pot aircooled engine fires up they'll think it's a real 911? No, noe do I.
Because most people won't know what a genuine flat 6 sounds like and will think it's a 911.
Because it is far less likely to suffer from serious mechanical issues than a genuine 911 for the same money.
I wouldn't buy it but I understand why someone would.
The people who the owner of this Covin would want to impress are petrolheads surely? Do you think that when the low revving four pot aircooled engine fires up they'll think it's a real 911? No, noe do I.
Devil2575 said:
cjb1 said:
Why buy this, or even build it in the first place?
Because it looks just like a 911 but has a fraction of the running costs.Because most people won't know what a genuine flat 6 sounds like and will think it's a 911.
Because it is far less likely to suffer from serious mechanical issues than a genuine 911 for the same money.
I wouldn't buy it but I understand why someone would.
"But then some will never understand the challenges" ??? I am a time served engineer, I have a kit car as well as the Porsche, I am not a company director, and I spent three years performing a total ground up mechanical/bodywork/interior/electrics restoration on a pre-impact bumper 911 that went on to win several classic car shows, I think perhaps that I do understand the challenges?
jagnet said:
cjb1 said:
Sell everything apart from the only genuine bit about the car, the Porsche Tacho, and buy yourself some respect in a prpoer 911
Respect? So someone that slapped down their company director salary and said "I'll have one of those" deserves more respect than the guy that laboured for hours in their garage putting together a well built Covin, overcoming the many issues that such a build throws up.cjb1 said:
The tacho might be mechanical and take it's feed by cable from the back of the dynamo?
But then some will never understand the challenges.cjb1 said:
The people who the owner of this Covin would want to impress are petrolheads surely? Do you think that when the low revving four pot aircooled engine fires up they'll think it's a real 911? No, noe do I.
What makes you think he's trying to impress anyone? It's his 3rd Covin - clearly the guy just likes building them, enjoys the look of the 911 and can combine the two in one hobby.Not everyone is out to impress people by their choice of vehicle.
Like I said earlier to the OP, we all have our right to an opinion, I have mine and I'm sharing it with you and the other posters, but, I'm not saying antone is wrong or right, we all have our own boats to float, that just doesn't float mie I'm afraid.
Not everyone is out to impress people by their choice of vehicle.
jagnet said:
cjb1 said:
The people who the owner of this Covin would want to impress are petrolheads surely? Do you think that when the low revving four pot aircooled engine fires up they'll think it's a real 911? No, noe do I.
What makes you think he's trying to impress anyone? It's his 3rd Covin - clearly the guy just likes building them, enjoys the look of the 911 and can combine the two in one hobby.Not everyone is out to impress people by their choice of vehicle.
cjb1 said:
"But then some will never understand the challenges" ??? I am a time served engineer, I have a kit car as well as the Porsche, I am not a company director, and I spent three years performing a total ground up mechanical/bodywork/interior/electrics restoration on a pre-impact bumper 911 that went on to win several classic car shows, I think perhaps that I do understand the challenges?
Then you of all people should be able to understand why someone would put together a Covin.I understand the challenge but not why it would be on something that is a blatent and inferior copy of an iconic car?
jagnet said:
cjb1 said:
"But then some will never understand the challenges" ??? I am a time served engineer, I have a kit car as well as the Porsche, I am not a company director, and I spent three years performing a total ground up mechanical/bodywork/interior/electrics restoration on a pre-impact bumper 911 that went on to win several classic car shows, I think perhaps that I do understand the challenges?
Then you of all people should be able to understand why someone would put together a Covin.I'm not saying it's wrong, nor that it shouldn't be done, just that I don't understand why.
cjb1 said:
I understand the challenge but not why it would be on something that is a blatent and inferior copy of an iconic car?
jagnet said:
cjb1 said:
"But then some will never understand the challenges" ??? I am a time served engineer, I have a kit car as well as the Porsche, I am not a company director, and I spent three years performing a total ground up mechanical/bodywork/interior/electrics restoration on a pre-impact bumper 911 that went on to win several classic car shows, I think perhaps that I do understand the challenges?
Then you of all people should be able to understand why someone would put together a Covin.Some of those old beetle engines can sound quite throaty! and porsches aren't exactly renowned for their ear pleasing sound tracks, even ones with less than 20 years of wear.
I'm not a fan of pretender cars really, but I can appreciate the work that goes into making something like that so if he's happy then each to their own. I don't know how much of that kit is donor car but if the kit includes a chassis and fibre glass body then it will go along way to solving the main problem with clasic cars, terminal rust.
I'm not a fan of pretender cars really, but I can appreciate the work that goes into making something like that so if he's happy then each to their own. I don't know how much of that kit is donor car but if the kit includes a chassis and fibre glass body then it will go along way to solving the main problem with clasic cars, terminal rust.
cjb1 said:
I understand the challenge but not why it would be on something that is a blatent and inferior copy of an iconic car?
Presumably, for most people the iconic look is enough. Superficial it may be, but if that does the trick then so be it. Dropping a flat six into it wouldn't be hard anyway then you get the 911 engine to boot, but budgetary constraints may mean that's not possible in which case running a genuine 911 is definitely out of budget. So you want to enjoy a car that you've admired since you were a kid, can't afford the genuine article, it's as close as you can get whilst pursuing your hobby. Can't afford an original piece of art, you get a print.
Is the fact that it's not as quick as a 911 really such an issue - it can still be fun to drive. A flat four might not have the same aural qualities as a flat six, but get the primary header lengths right and it doesn't have to sound like a Beetle either.
NISaxoVTR said:
Some of those old beetle engines can sound quite throaty! and porsches aren't exactly renowned for their ear pleasing sound tracks, even ones with less than 20 years of wear.
An air cooled 911 came clattering past off the throttle the other day; the OH asked me if there was something wrong with the engine as it sounded broken 
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