Jeweller in Essex to authenticate a secondhand Rolex
Jeweller in Essex to authenticate a secondhand Rolex
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MarsellusWallace

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1,180 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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I am looking to buy a secondhand Rolex which is located some 250 miles away from me in Grays,Essex,and was wondering if anyone knew of a jeweller near there that I could use to authenticate the watch for me.(ie Have a look over it and obtain the serial number),before I travel down to buy?

CardShark

4,264 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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There's a Goldsmiths in Bluewater and quite possibly one in Lakeside, two nearby shopping centres. No idea if they would be prepared to authenticate a watch though.

MarsellusWallace

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1,180 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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The seller took it to Goldsmiths in Lakeside but they would not do it.

audidoody

8,598 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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If the seller is legit surely he would take the watch back and refund you if you could prove it wasn't genuine?

MarsellusWallace

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1,180 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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audidoody said:
If the seller is legit surely he would take the watch back and refund you if you could prove it wasn't genuine?
To be honest,and having bought and sold many watches over the years,I dont want to get into a situation where I have handed over my money without being 100% sure the watch is legit.

Mark A B

166 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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There's a lost and stolen line for Rolex watches, not sure if it's available to the public but if the seller has all the serial numbers this could be a good place to start? Goldsmiths have the number and so do mappin and Webb so you could try these?

MarsellusWallace

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232 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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The Rolex lost and stolen line was closed to the public some time ago which was a grave error in my opinion.

I have been informed by the seller that this watch has no papers or receipts and has had its serial number removed/plated over so Im going to be giving this one a wide berth.

CardShark

4,264 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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MarsellusWallace said:
I have been informed by the seller that this watch has had its serial number removed/plated over so Im going to be giving this one a wide berth.
yikes

And this chap is trying to sell it on as genuine?

bks.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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CardShark said:
MarsellusWallace said:
I have been informed by the seller that this watch has had its serial number removed/plated over so Im going to be giving this one a wide berth.
yikes

And this chap is trying to sell it on as genuine?

bks.
My Submariner had had the same, but that was genuine.
No idea why it had been done, but both the model reference and the serial number (bar the first 3 digits, so it could be dated) had been dremeled off.

Good idea on walking though OP, too much of a risk.

Dominic H

3,289 posts

263 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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MarcellusWallace said:
I have been informed by the seller that this watch has no papers or receipts and has had its serial number removed/plated over..

MarsellusWallace

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232 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Dominic H said:
Exactamundo

PS Although i do not know you apart from the glowing references on here I keep seeing your Facebook notifications as I am a friend of Andy and Tess.

All the best,

Will



GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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LukeBird said:
My Submariner had had the same, but that was genuine.
No idea why it had been done, but both the model reference and the serial number (bar the first 3 digits, so it could be dated) had been dremeled off.

Good idea on walking though OP, too much of a risk.
Usually to protect the AD who sold it into the grey market cheaply, or who sold discounted to a broker.

Highly undesirable though, and less common now I believe.

CardShark

4,264 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Would Rolex snaffle such a watch should it ever be sent to them? Fair enough if there are some genuine watches out there like that but I can't see Rolex being too happy about it.

Miguel Alvarez

5,192 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Why did Rolex get rid of their lost and stolen register?

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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CardShark said:
Would Rolex snaffle such a watch should it ever be sent to them? Fair enough if there are some genuine watches out there like that but I can't see Rolex being too happy about it.
No, you own what you own and stories about Rolex 'keeping' other peoples property, whether genuine or not, are just that - stories.

If the watch was stolen then thats another matter, of course.

Ive always thought that Rolex stopped their provenance service because it was simply easier for them.

MarsellusWallace

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232 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Miguel Alvarez said:
Why did Rolex get rid of their lost and stolen register?
The register is still there,but what has been lost is the ability for a member of the public to ring up and check a serial number of a watch.You can add a stolen watch by writing in to them.

Miguel Alvarez

5,192 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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MarsellusWallace said:
Miguel Alvarez said:
Why did Rolex get rid of their lost and stolen register?
The register is still there,but what has been lost is the ability for a member of the public to ring up and check a serial number of a watch.You can add a stolen watch by writing in to them.
Ok. So I can't ring them up and add one I've bought?

LukeBird

17,170 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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GC8 said:
LukeBird said:
My Submariner had had the same, but that was genuine.
No idea why it had been done, but both the model reference and the serial number (bar the first 3 digits, so it could be dated) had been dremeled off.

Good idea on walking though OP, too much of a risk.
Usually to protect the AD who sold it into the grey market cheaply, or who sold discounted to a broker.

Highly undesirable though, and less common now I believe.
I hadn't thought of that, interesting that dealers would have gone to those lengths to cover their tracks.