The barstewards....
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Here we go - I just went for a pint of milk and I am hoping it's not going to be the most expensive pint ever.
On a busy Cardiff road, which is dual carraigeway both ways - no centre bit - one whole road - there are two cameras one pointing one way the other the opposite. Now I went through the first, which was behind at 30 which is correct and as I cleared it and slowly accelerated past the markings on the opposite side of the road for the opposite side facing me at around 35 - 40, the one facing me friggin flashed!
No other cars - Where do I stand - I don't think I was anywhere near 40 as a friend of mine got caught doing 38 thru there - its 30 both ways.
Can anyone help?
I wouldn't have thought they could do that?
On a busy Cardiff road, which is dual carraigeway both ways - no centre bit - one whole road - there are two cameras one pointing one way the other the opposite. Now I went through the first, which was behind at 30 which is correct and as I cleared it and slowly accelerated past the markings on the opposite side of the road for the opposite side facing me at around 35 - 40, the one facing me friggin flashed!
No other cars - Where do I stand - I don't think I was anywhere near 40 as a friend of mine got caught doing 38 thru there - its 30 both ways.
Can anyone help?
I wouldn't have thought they could do that?
There are Gatso cameras thatwill get you from the opposite direction, i.e. the lens faces you and takes the picture of the front of the speeding car. there are quite a few of these in the Bedfordshire area and one or two in Bucks, Through Princes Risborough and again on the A418 towards Leighton Buzzard.
They are quite easy to spot as the camera lens is round and sticks out from the box. The lens is also coloured red which I believe is an infra red filter so that the flash does not dazzle or blind the offending driver. The problem with these cameras is that you cannot avoid the evidence when it arrives as it clearly shows yours truly with a big cheesy grin (or otherwise)
The only way to get away with these ones is to don a diguise. Long blonde 'rug' and copious boots No7 may well do the trick but make sure you have shaved well and take your chances when you get stopped for something else in that garb
They are quite easy to spot as the camera lens is round and sticks out from the box. The lens is also coloured red which I believe is an infra red filter so that the flash does not dazzle or blind the offending driver. The problem with these cameras is that you cannot avoid the evidence when it arrives as it clearly shows yours truly with a big cheesy grin (or otherwise)
The only way to get away with these ones is to don a diguise. Long blonde 'rug' and copious boots No7 may well do the trick but make sure you have shaved well and take your chances when you get stopped for something else in that garb
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There are Gatso cameras thatwill get you from the opposite direction, i.e. the lens faces you and takes the picture of the front of the speeding car. there are quite a few of these in the Bedfordshire area and one or two in Bucks, Through Princes Risborough and again on the A418 towards Leighton Buzzard.
They are quite easy to spot as the camera lens is round and sticks out from the box. The lens is also coloured red which I believe is an infra red filter so that the flash does not dazzle or blind the offending driver. The problem with these cameras is that you cannot avoid the evidence when it arrives as it clearly shows yours truly with a big cheesy grin (or otherwise)
The only way to get away with these ones is to don a diguise. Long blonde 'rug' and copious boots No7 may well do the trick but make sure you have shaved well and take your chances when you get stopped for something else in that garb
oh yea, you can im in beds
and it all Truevelos pics .
I sent back and got out of
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I'm 99.99% sure GATSO's only measure speed going away from them, if they didn't you'd never catch a motorcycle
The reason i ask this is because in chideock there is 2 cameras and in each direction they have the markings on the side of the road going towards the camera , anyway these cameras are in a 30 zone so ive never set them off
Its the one on the a30 that fashed me last sunday im worried about , i was doing 90-100 along a stright and it was hidden behind a sign
oh well they have 5 more days 
i think it only flashed once though ?
>> Edited by ZZR600 on Tuesday 11th June 07:47
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On a busy Cardiff road, which is dual carraigeway both ways - no centre bit - one whole road.
By the way, as I understand it the road you described was not a dual carriageway - that is defined by having a physical separator/island between the two directions (hence two separate carriageways) rather than the number of lanes in each direction and/or road markings. Doesn't matter here, but would be a bit more important in NSL.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
North Road, just off the big roundabout by the Hospital for those who haven't been for a while. They just recently added the second one looking out of Cardiff.
Whatever you do don't jump any Traffic Lights in Cardiff either - virually all the main ones have cameras on 'em.
North Road, just off the big roundabout by the Hospital for those who haven't been for a while. They just recently added the second one looking out of Cardiff.
Whatever you do don't jump any Traffic Lights in Cardiff either - virually all the main ones have cameras on 'em.
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Its the one on the a30 that fashed me last sunday im worried about , i was doing 90-100 along a stright and it was hidden behind a sign
i think it only flashed once though ?
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Misconseption to think that they only have 5 days left.
They have 14 days to send it in the post. this counts as service if they can prove it went within that time.
The fact that you didnt receive it until sometime after the 14 days is immaterial.
If it only flashed once then you have gone past a camera with a dummy unit installed.
You will not receive a summons for this as no camera is within the unit.
The idea is to frighten people into slowing down as they think they have been captured and therefore are more careful in the immediate future.
OOOPS! If you think it only flashed once then ask for the photgraphic evidence.
Speeding is one of a very few offences that require corroboration. That is why there are two photos taken.
If for some reason the camera only went off once, then you may have a shout at getting it binned.
Best of luck
Speeding is one of a very few offences that require corroboration. That is why there are two photos taken.
If for some reason the camera only went off once, then you may have a shout at getting it binned.
Best of luck
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Speeding is one of a very few offences that require corroboration. That is why there are two photos taken.
Am I right in saying that one photo does not corroborate the other, but that the speed-sensor within the GATSO is corroborated by a manual check of the distance the car has travelled between the two photos (using those little white dashes on the road)?
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I heard a rumour that it is against 'civil liberties' for speed cameras to take photos from the front of the car. Is this yet another urban legend?
Yes it is an urban legend as you have the option to not have your photo taken, purely by driving under the speed limit!!!
There is nothing subversive about these type of photos
that would contraveneyour civil liberties.
>> Edited by madcop on Wednesday 12th June 10:44
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Am I right in saying that one photo does not corroborate the other, but that the speed-sensor within the GATSO is corroborated by a manual check of the distance the car has travelled between the two photos (using those little white dashes on the road)?
Something like that. The second photo obviously shows the distance travelled within the little white lines. This corroborates the actual electronic speed calculation as the camera flashes are at a constant time interval. The faster you travel, the further up the white dashes you appear in the second photo.
as the distance between the lines is known, the speed can be calculated from that as well if there appears to be a problem with the electronic calculation.
If for instance you were travelling at 30mph and the unit malfunctioned taking your photo and registering a speed of 48mph, it would be easy to define the actual speed from the position of the vehicle in relation to the white lines,
If that makes sense!
>> Edited by madcop on Wednesday 12th June 10:53
quote:Just to be pedantic, the cameras are capable of taking photos of advancing vehicles and take one photo rather that two in this configuration.
I'm 99.99% sure GATSO's only measure speed going away from them, if they didn't you'd never catch a motorcycle
However, as far as I am aware (based on when I worked with the systems in 1995) single photos taken by a GATSO on an advancing vehicle are not legally admissable as evidence.
So the short answer is an agreement with everyone else - you're in the clear.
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