When are the F1 engines changing?

[Fantuzzi]

Is it next season or the one after?

Its v6 twin turbo right, or is it still meant to be 1.6 4 cy, Ive read so many things.

Thank

[Composite Guru]

2014. Not sure about the type though. I would like to say V6 twin turbo.

[Mini1275]

They're changing to 1.6 litre, turbocharged (single) V6s with a rev limit of 15,000 RPM.

[10 Pence Short]

Might as well stick a VAG 2.0 diesel in them, to be honest. Pinnacle of motorsport my arse.

[hiccy]

10 Pence Short said:

Might as well stick a VAG 2.0 diesel in them, to be honest. Pinnacle of motorsport my arse.

What would make them the pinnacle of motorsport?


Are they not going to be hybrids?

[AlexS]

10 Pence Short said:

Might as well stick a VAG 2.0 diesel in them, to be honest. Pinnacle of motorsport my arse.

So, what is your pinnacle of motorsport then?

[Bill Carr]

AlexS said:

10 Pence Short said:

Might as well stick a VAG 2.0 diesel in them, to be honest. Pinnacle of motorsport my arse.

So, what is your pinnacle of motorsport then?

Can you not read?! His arse.

[LiamM45]

I think the turbo V6 engines will sound fantastic. Looking forward to seeing them in action

[Life Saab Itch]

olly22n said:

We need large capacity V12's.

With a tow hitch on the back to pull the fuel tanker behind.

[Richard-G]

You can always tell the people who know nothing of f1 when they slag the ol V6 tubby.

it's a good thing they're going to that style of engine, they also have to be started without any outside assistance, which will change things HUGELY.

[miln0039]

olly22n said:

Life Saab Itch said:

olly22n said:

We need large capacity V12's.

With a tow hitch on the back to pull the fuel tanker behind.

And bigger fuel tanks.

Obv.

Just bring back fueling at pit stops! Was a lot more exciting!

[Nick1point9]

hiccy said:

What would make them the pinnacle of motorsport?


Are they not going to be hybrids?

They already are hybrids (those that have KERS at least). The rules allow for energy recovery from exhaust gases, i.e. recovery from the turbo shaft. And the rules allow you to motor the turbo to get it up to speed.

10 Pence Short said:

Might as well stick a VAG 2.0 diesel in them, to be honest. Pinnacle of motorsport my arse.

You're right, F1 is all about the engines and by dropping 2 cylinders and 3k rpm the cars practically won't move and will sound like corsas. Oh and the new regulations to limit performance and the way they have written the rules on the use of turbocharging definitely won't lead to significantly better power delivery.

Oh and before you comment on noise, I bet you're one of the people that said the V8s would never live up to the V10s that would never live up to the V12s. If so, what does it matter if it doesn't sound like the V8s, I thought they sounded rubbish anyway?

Crap, I've spilt loads of sarcasm on my keyboard.

[RichardD]

Are some sort of inlet restrictions going to be used to control the boost levels that can be achieved?

[Fantuzzi]

Ive never understood peoples love a large capacity, racing is small capacity.

2.0litre v8s thats where its at 1968 style, tipo 33...mmm

Best sounding engine ever, not subjective, fact.

[Rude-boy]

Richard-G said:

You can always tell the people who know nothing of f1 when they slag the ol V6 tubby.

Indeed. I remember how pants these sounded like it was only yesterday

[Rude-boy]

As for capacity we certainly don’t need to hear the monotonous drone of this engine:-


Hell it only revs to a little over 12k!

[RenesisEvo]

RichardD said:

Are some sort of inlet restrictions going to be used to control the boost levels that can be achieved?

There's a fuel flow rate restriction, so no matter how much air you cram into the engine (i.e boost), you can only put so much fuel in anyway. Probably a whole lot easier to police than trying to set a boot limit.

[RichardD]

RenesisEvo said:

There's a fuel flow rate restriction, so no matter how much air you cram into the engine (i.e boost), you can only put so much fuel in anyway. Probably a whole lot easier to police than trying to set a boost limit.

Thanks for that.

With a restriction like that though, wouldn't it be possible to have an engine that produces say 700bhp at 7000rpm (big boost (and torque!!)) and still 700bhp at 14000rpm ? Of course having too much torque for a gearbox would be another issue which I suppose would mean that torque would be moderated to suit...

[mad4amanda]

Hmmm at Brands yesterday we had a demo of 2 early 1990s F1 v8s one was a b193 with a ford HB the other was an earlier Benneton poss a B188again with a ford v8 . Everyone commented on how much better the noise was compared to modern v8s. The demo in the dry was superb.

[otolith]

It's preferable to the turbocharged fours that it looked as if they were going to be lumbered with, but it's essentially a political/commercial act rather than one intended to improve the sport or the spectacle.