Trilogy engraved warning lights
Trilogy engraved warning lights
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R0162

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193 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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I got them today, but cant work out how they fit, do they just sit on top like this or do people enlarge the holes to allow them to fit flush?


Adrian W

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257 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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The rear of the assembly unscrews, some have a locking ring

R0162

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193 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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ye this is with them locked into place with the ring behind, maybe i bought the wrong ones?

sundance002

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193 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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R0162 said:
ye this is with them locked into place with the ring behind, maybe i bought the wrong ones?
I think they done 2 sizes 25mm and 30mm. I used the 25 mm

R0162

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Monday 6th August 2012
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here is a pic of how they assemble, the front aluminium part is in two parts so it can sandwich the console, then the black nut tightens up the assembly so that the aluminium parts sanwich the console, but the front outer bezel is much larger than the holes in the console, so to make them flush i guess i would have to make all the holes bigger.




R0162

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Monday 6th August 2012
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sundance002 said:
I think they done 2 sizes 25mm and 30mm. I used the 25 mm
ahh feck i got the wrong sizes then, i bloody followed the link from the thread specifically asking where to get them from, damn it.

R0162

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Monday 6th August 2012
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i guess i will just enlarge the holes then, problem is they are virtually touching.

sundance002

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Monday 6th August 2012
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R0162 said:
i guess i will just enlarge the holes then, problem is they are virtually touching.
I'm sure they will change them if you send them back in the original packing even though they are open, they did mine.

R0162

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Monday 6th August 2012
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I got them from CBS, where did you get yours from?

R0162

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193 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Having a few problems with wiring.
Indicator only flashes when going left, if i swap wires over then it only flashes when indicating right, what do I need to do?
Oil light works but stays on, so I had to wire my old bulb back in.
High beam lights up orange and not blue, is that right?

AMG Merc

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282 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Don't forget the cornflakes matey smile

Rob_W

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243 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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R0162 said:
Having a few problems with wiring.
Indicator only flashes when going left, if i swap wires over then it only flashes when indicating right, what do I need to do?
Oil light works but stays on, so I had to wire my old bulb back in.
High beam lights up orange and not blue, is that right?
Hi Chris
The indicator circuit seems to swap polarity through the lamp depending on direction, fine with a normal lamp but the LED doesn't like it so I fitted a slave relay so the existing feed powers the coil (make sure you buy a relay that is not polarity sensitive either)and the connect a live feed to the LED via the switched relay contacts.
You may need to fit resistors (very low values but decent wattage) to the LEDs, my alternator lamp needed one, google fitting LEDS and resistors and there's lot of stuff.
Good luck.
Rob

andygtt

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293 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Rob_W said:
R0162 said:
Having a few problems with wiring.
Indicator only flashes when going left, if i swap wires over then it only flashes when indicating right, what do I need to do?
Oil light works but stays on, so I had to wire my old bulb back in.
High beam lights up orange and not blue, is that right?
Hi Chris
The indicator circuit seems to swap polarity through the lamp depending on direction, fine with a normal lamp but the LED doesn't like it so I fitted a slave relay so the existing feed powers the coil (make sure you buy a relay that is not polarity sensitive either)and the connect a live feed to the LED via the switched relay contacts.
You may need to fit resistors (very low values but decent wattage) to the LEDs, my alternator lamp needed one, google fitting LEDS and resistors and there's lot of stuff.
Good luck.
Rob
led on allow current one way and as Rob says the indicator wiring swops the polarity... I fitted these and my solution was to fit 2.... but then mine are under the clocks in front of the driver so having one each side of the dash looks right.

You have a blue led in you high beam, did you specify a blue as they come in variety of colours... oil light should be fine so no idea why yours is an issue.... you MUST retain the alternator light as the LED will not register with the alternator and it wont charge properly, I retained it behind the dash and put the led inline as well.

BTW I stripped mine down and painted them completely matt black... they now look the nuts in the carbon dash panel smile

you going to the Rockingham day or still in Cyprus?


Rob_W

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Monday 3rd September 2012
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Fitting a resistor does the same function as leaving the bulb in.

joust

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288 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Rob_W said:
Fitting a resistor does the same function as leaving the bulb in.
Please note you should ALWAYS fit a current limiting resistor when replacing a bulb with a LED.

Not only does various parts of the electronics require it (e.g. the alternator drain circuit), but if you don't you will seriously shorten the life of the LED, in some cases to well under a year.

Use a site like http://ledcalc.com/ if you don't know what resistor value to use.

J

andygtt

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293 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Do these not have a resistor built in?

R0162

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Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Which warning light is normally at the top, oil or alternator?

andygtt

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293 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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battery! but does it really matter?

put them in the order you want... I made sure oil was the most prominant to me smile

joust

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Tuesday 4th September 2012
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andygtt said:
Do these not have a resistor built in?
Unfortunately the technical specs at http://www.trillogyltd.com/technical-notes/savage/... have a broken link so I can't tell, but posts on other forums suggest that you need a resistor to get the brightness to a "normal" level (i.e. so they don't become a distraction at night) suggesting they are over-driven if you just connect them raw to 12V.

Most of the wiring examples I found show either a 470R for normal brightness and a 2k2 or 4k3 if you don't want them particularly bright.

That figures if they are around 20mA and 3.3V forward drop. If you got the specs with them in the post then if someone can post that I can tell you.

J

andygtt

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293 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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their wiring diagram doesnt suggest any resistors unless i have missed something so would be a major omission if they need resistors.... they are not 'that' bright and I have them under the clocks.... but then they are only outline lit and are not on when driving only when indicating or full beam on etc lol

its actually nice having an indicator light you can actually see in the daytime smile