RS4.0 prices
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jackal

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11,251 posts

312 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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When the 991RS gets released and clocks the ring in something silly like 15 seconds quicker than anything previous, what will happen to some of these barking RS4.0 prices ? And will the RS3.8 values take a little knock as well ?

Will the 4.0 always be a massive jump on from the RS3.8 in value or one day will they merge and the 4 litre car is just one increment onwards, just like the RS3.8 is one step on from the gen 2 GT3 ?

Edited by jackal on Tuesday 7th August 22:20

porkyspecialist

203 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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The RS4.0 will always be 'the best of the best"( of the generation), whats sad is no one will bother to drive them for fear of depreciation.
That is all.

drpep

1,761 posts

198 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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I'd love for the 3.8 RS to fall a little closer to my reach.

In reality though, I'd simply rather (and will) make my little software business more profitable, and work to be able to afford an 3.8 at it's not altogether unreasonably current cost.

Ideologically the perfect car. Sod the posers, it's all about motorsport smile

jackal

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11,251 posts

312 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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In what way is the 4.0 better than the 3.8 ? Obviously more lower down but I am sceptical that the difference is particularly large.

V8KSN

4,713 posts

214 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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porkyspecialist said:
The RS4.0 will always be 'the best of the best"( of the generation), whats sad is no one will bother to drive them for fear of depreciation.
That is all.
I agree. The 4.0RS is the swansong Mezger engine and for that reason it will always be worth more. However, I do see them dropping from the £200k they are currently.

sootyvrs

364 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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With only 31 licensed registered GT3 RS 4.0 in the UK, it's always going to be a very rare car and I'm sure will be a classic in the future.

I'm sure the bubble will burst at some time and prices will drop a little but still think it will remain high even after the 991 GT3 RS arrives

996GT2

2,649 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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They'll always command a premium over the 3.8, the gap will probably close a bit though.

Are the 997.1 RSs dropping off a bit? Noticed quite a few 'cheap' ones on the market lately.


oola

2,749 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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I saw a LHD Swiss registered one up near me (east of York) a week last Saturday. He gave it some beans as he shot passed me, absolutely stunning. Sorry for the poor iPhone shot, he was moving too quickly.tongue out

mollytherocker

14,467 posts

239 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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jackal said:
When the 991RS gets released and clocks the ring in something silly like 15 seconds quicker than anything previous, what will happen to some of these barking RS4.0 prices ? And will the RS3.8 values take a little knock as well ?
I reckon that the 991GT3 will have a significant effect on all previous GT3 values. However, this effect could go either way.

If it is the car we hope it will be and has a manual option, it will hit the values of the later cars but perhaps not the 996 Mk1 and 996RS.

However, if the car is excessively digital with PDK only and is perceived to have lost too many layers of feel etc, the older cars could rise!! There is also the 'Mezger' effect too.

I am sure we will all be following developments with interest!

MTR

911god

2,961 posts

215 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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I'm keeping my Mezger GT3 for those very reasons. Whatever else happens it'll have electric steering for sure. Some won't like it.


Edited by jeremyc on Wednesday 8th August 13:00

seawise

2,284 posts

236 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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V8KSN said:
However, I do see them dropping from the £200k they are currently.
they aren't selling anywhere near that money any more, several on PH, a black one for 170k and the journo's car reduced from 195 to 185k. still 70-75k more than 3.8's, which probably explains why they struggling to sell now that the collectors who were willing to pay massive premiums are done and dusted.

Stitch

933 posts

247 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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oola said:
I saw a LHD Swiss registered one up near me (east of York) a week last Saturday. He gave it some beans as he shot passed me, absolutely stunning. Sorry for the poor iPhone shot, he was moving too quickly.tongue out
Don't apologise for the poor quality photo - apologise for using your phone to take a photo whilst driving.

Christ, you got overtaken by a fking 911!! Was it really worth putting yourself and other road users at risk?

Let's all be thankful that you didn't see him in nose to tail traffic on the A1 where you could have done some real harm.

S1MMA

2,451 posts

249 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Number 420 LHD is for sale in Dubai right now, asking roughly £157k for it. 1,800km.

Funny thing is, when the next GT3 comes out, I see a few of these coming on the market here at good money - not a big market for man transmission cars here.

MadMark911

1,755 posts

179 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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V8KSN said:
porkyspecialist said:
The RS4.0 will always be 'the best of the best"( of the generation), whats sad is no one will bother to drive them for fear of depreciation.
That is all.
I agree. The 4.0RS is the swansong Mezger engine and for that reason it will always be worth more. However, I do see them dropping from the £200k they are currently.
Agreed! Limited supply and (probably) a reasonable demand once prices drop closer to "list" should see to long term prices. There is no way the 991 will be as focused ...

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Stitch said:
Don't apologise for the poor quality photo - apologise for using your phone to take a photo whilst driving.

Christ, you got overtaken by a fking 911!! Was it really worth putting yourself and other road users at risk?

Let's all be thankful that you didn't see him in nose to tail traffic on the A1 where you could have done some real harm.
you should be more worried about the quality of the photo in your profile... shocking!

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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S1MMA said:
Number 420 LHD is for sale in Dubai right now, asking roughly £157k for it. 1,800km.

Funny thing is, when the next GT3 comes out, I see a few of these coming on the market here at good money - not a big market for man transmission cars here.
thats good news for me... i'm saving, watching & waiting to jump on a proper black lhd model, one day!

LeighB

3,858 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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oola said:
I saw a LHD Swiss registered one up near me (east of York) a week last Saturday. He gave it some beans as he shot passed me, absolutely stunning. Sorry for the poor iPhone shot, he was moving too quickly.tongue out
is that on the Stamford Bridge road oola?

JEA1K

2,749 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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LeighB said:
is that on the Stamford Bridge road oola?
Nope, it was on the A1079 dual carraigeway nr Market Weighton.


Stitch said:
Don't apologise for the poor quality photo - apologise for using your phone to take a photo whilst driving.

Christ, you got overtaken by a fking 911!! Was it really worth putting yourself and other road users at risk?

Let's all be thankful that you didn't see him in nose to tail traffic on the A1 where you could have done some real harm.
Let me just correct you there ... it was a 4.0 RS, not just a 911.smile

Well as you have already identified from the photo, it was taken on stretch of road which was very quiet, not on nose to tail traffic otherwise I wouldn't have taken it .. but that thought probably never crossed your mind hey?

Now, get back in your box you self-righteous prat.

SFO

5,190 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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JEA1K said:
Now, get back in your box
+1

ChumpCarRacer

1 posts

170 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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My belief is that RS4.0 prices will be relatively unchanged by the introduction of the 991 GT3. My rationale is that they will or already have become a "collectors" car. The uniqueness drives that as they will always be the top of the 997 series. Their performance will be topped. That is true of virtually all cars over time. Only if Porsche messes up and either delivers a 991 that is not impressive or is over the top good can they have an effect on RS4.0 pricing. I can't see that happening. The 991 GT3 will be incrementally better. The purist will not like the PDK. The 991 GT3 RS will increment up again, possibly providing a different transmission or engine. But Porsche has been very consistent with carefully walking up the performance ladder on each model designation and keeping their market position in line with each other.