CAT 7 Install or run away
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recalluk

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816 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Guys I am in the process of buying a new build and would like to wire it Network as well as a couple of extra runs for HDMI over CATx.

A guy I work with has a load of CAT 7 Cabling spare from a DC project he did a while back and is happy for me to have. Is there any reason to avoid using this given the house shell is bare wall at the moment ? Or am I making a future headache.

I am assuming I will need a decent cable installer rather than trusting the site spark.

Plan B would be for the spark to run the cable at the same time as the electrical and leave it behind plaster fo rme to "knock out" later to terminate. Any reason this would be a bad idea ?

NorthDave

2,527 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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Perfectly good idea. If you terminate to a patch panel in a hub area and keystone jacks with faceplates in the room then termination is not too difficult.

If your sparkie is up to it then great otherwise just ask him to leave the wires trailing and get practising yourself. With a decent tester you can easily work out if it has been done correctly or not.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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RJ45's are pretty easy. I am colour blind and still manage to do then without messing up. I did an entire patch panel once for an entire vessel. Was chuffed, although I did have to ask a few folks which was the green, and which was the brown. hehe

cjs

11,468 posts

274 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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Just be aware Cat 7 cable can be a pain to terminate compared to Cat 5, check out the procedures before or you may end up cursing the day you installed it!.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

268 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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recalluk said:
Plan B would be for the spark to run the cable at the same time as the electrical and leave it behind plaster fo rme to "knock out" later to terminate. Any reason this would be a bad idea ?
The snag with that is you can't test it until it's too late to do anything about it. I'm sure people who work with this stuff every day don't give it a second thought, but you do have to be a little bit careful not to be too rough handling catx cable and not make bends too tight.

recalluk

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816 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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cjs said:
Just be aware Cat 7 cable can be a pain to terminate compared to Cat 5, check out the procedures before or you may end up cursing the day you installed it!.
This is the part that worried me .. .will have a good dig cheers.

S1_RS

782 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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You shouldn't really run the data cable parallel with the power cables, it's ok to cross over it occasionally though.
As for getting a sparky to install it make sure he know's what he's doing first. I once worked on a job where the client had tried to save money so got his BT Engineer "mate" to install the data on the cheap. When we came to install the IT equipment none of the sockets worked as he'd not followed any wiring scheme, just done them all the same. We had to reterminate every connection.

recalluk

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816 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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OK guys, idiot question 2 ..... if I terminate in a panel with GG45 connectors, will a HDMI Balun still work over it or is the pin assignment difference a problem ?



Edited by recalluk on Thursday 9th August 11:16

TomOSmith

165 posts

286 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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Pin assignment is unlikely to be the problem, and even if it was, relatively easy to fix. Your bigger problem is likely to be the HDMI balum run as according to most specs, they don't like intermediate terminations. Having said that I run Octavia's HDMI matrix over dual cat with lots of hops in between and it seems pretty much fine. The run is approximately HDMI -> Matrix -> 3m Cat6A patch -> wall -> 20m Cat6A solid -> panel -> 1m Cat6A patch -> 25m Cat6A solid -> wall -> 3m Cat6A patch -> balum -> HDMI.

P.S. The lessons I learnt from the project, one hire a Fluke DTX-1800 cable tester to make sure the cables and termination are good, two learn to terminate yourself (the tool-less jacks I found were dead easy, though my installers had difficulty (though really you should know not to leave tails around metal jacks without being told)).

Rosscow

9,486 posts

186 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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I ran my own Cat 6 cabling and have had no problems whatsoever - didn't really worry about it to be honest. Just get running!

Rosscow

9,486 posts

186 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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Well I got my IT friend to terminate and test it all and he said it was all good.

recalluk

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816 posts

259 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Thanks Guys .. decision made. I am going CAT 6 and will be using a data company for the termination part.