Will lift-off oversteer ever get the better of engaged ESP?
Will lift-off oversteer ever get the better of engaged ESP?
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2000 GTV

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68 posts

184 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Swift Sport for the sis.

No Michele Mouton.

Ari

19,764 posts

238 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Then what's the likelihood of her ever going fast enough to find out?

ESP will never trigger in normal road use, only if you/she hits an unexpected slippery surface, or if someone is the sort of "driving god" that likes to "push the limit" on normal roads.

Unfortunately the latter is also the sort of person that's likely to switch it off, which is why some manufacturers are making them impossible to completely disable these days.

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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ESP cannot break the laws of physics. If you manage to drive your car in such a fashion that the positive yaw gain is beyond the negative gain that the ESP can apply to resist the yawing motion, then, you'll still end up facing the other way! However, generally, ESP is a reasonably good at preventing unexpected large positive yaw motions.

Of course, just because you don't spin, doesn't mean you won't crash...............

Dave Hedgehog

15,799 posts

227 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Ari said:
Then what's the likelihood of her ever going fast enough to find out?

ESP will never trigger in normal road use, only if you/she hits an unexpected slippery surface, or if someone is the sort of "driving god" that likes to "push the limit" on normal roads.

Unfortunately the latter is also the sort of person that's likely to switch it off, which is why some manufacturers are making them impossible to completely disable these days.
i have had esp go off a couple of times on normal dry roads, lost the back on the R32 once with no warning what so ever, very odd

J4CKO

45,939 posts

223 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Nope, don't think so, was pressing on in my Saab, rear tyres were legal but not great, lifted off as I crested a rise and back comes out, surprised but on top of it, ESP kicks in just as I start to deal with it, have tried to fool it in the wet and on a snowy car park but it is very impressive what it can do, no driver has that accuracy and speed, or the ability to vary pressure to individual wheels.

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

192 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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not with a dap of oppo