Evolution Chassis
Evolution Chassis
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Mr Haribo

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318 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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Not that I have called them, Has anyone tested one or had it fitted ?

slideways

4,101 posts

251 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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No, but do you have a link?

m996tt

407 posts

241 months

Mr Haribo

Original Poster:

318 posts

219 months

jwoffshore

461 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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I'm the Guinea Pig for this one. The project started pretty modestly to basically add T-car front suspension and make a few changes to better accommodate the LS engine. However, things have escalated somewhat from that apparently simple starting point!

Mr Haribo

Original Poster:

318 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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Is it far off completion ?

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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They need to make it fit a BBC!

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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jwoffshore said:
I'm the Guinea Pig for this one. The project started pretty modestly to basically add T-car front suspension and make a few changes to better accommodate the LS engine. However, things have escalated somewhat from that apparently simple starting point!
Why not just cut down a cerb chassis ,job done ,then add the same suspension setup !

jwoffshore

461 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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(in reply to Haribo)

On the face of it, no, but.... We have a pretty much finalised chassis backbone and steering rack awaiting front and rear suspension. The suspension is all new with machined ally uprights. Originally the intention was to use T-car front uprights, but then came the idea to machine entirely new ones since future supply of new T-car ones cannot be certain. That lead to making custom rear uprights too!

The benefits will be increased chassis stiffness and better suspension geometry, in particular getting away from the Sierra front upright and the bespoke TVR rack. Also the LS engine will fit much better with plenty of room for exhaust manifolds down the side of the block rather than forwards into a crowded and over-heated engine bay.

Currently some work is going into the detail of fitting the T56 Magnum gearbox.

It's hard to give you a date for completion, as so much depends on logistics and resources available to do the design/development while the people involved also do the daily bread & butter to earn a living.

My car is Griffith by the way. Sorry about that!

jwoffshore

461 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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Alexdaredevilz said:
They need to make it fit a BBC!
I think that's a step too far!!

jwoffshore

461 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Why not just cut down a cerb chassis ,job done ,then add the same suspension setup !
Hmmm, it's not as simple as that. We are building new chassis from scratch, not patching up salvage yard parts!

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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jwoffshore said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
Why not just cut down a cerb chassis ,job done ,then add the same suspension setup !
Hmmm, it's not as simple as that. We are building new chassis from scratch, not patching up salvage yard parts!
Well it`s proven ! the cerbera Chassis and suspension setup is spot on ..

The problem is who is going to pay big money for old cars ? unless you work off shore laugh

Take my hat off to you ,you are perfecting the crap handling ans steering setup .

TVR should of spent more time and money on chassis ,build quality etc and ditched the engines ..

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th August 2012
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The crap handling makes the car much more exciting to drive

Trevor450

1,939 posts

178 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Alexdaredevilz said:
The crap handling makes the car much more exciting to drive
I did the Buttertubs Pass in Yorkshire yesterday and scared myself stless!

Mr Haribo

Original Poster:

318 posts

219 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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On the face of it, no, but.... We have a pretty much finalised chassis backbone and steering rack awaiting front and rear suspension. The suspension is all new with machined ally uprights. Originally the intention was to use T-car front uprights, but then came the idea to machine entirely new ones since future supply of new T-car ones cannot be certain. That lead to making custom rear uprights too!

The benefits will be increased chassis stiffness and better suspension geometry, in particular getting away from the Sierra front upright and the bespoke TVR rack. Also the LS engine will fit much better with plenty of room for exhaust manifolds down the side of the block rather than forwards into a crowded and over-heated engine bay.

Currently some work is going into the detail of fitting the T56 Magnum gearbox.

It's hard to give you a date for completion, as so much depends on logistics and resources available to do the design/development while the people involved also do the daily bread & butter to earn a living.

My car is Griffith by the way. Sorry about that!


Could be worth the wait then ! not worth having the power if you cant put it down ?
be good if you could keep us posted ?
Shame about the Griff ! lol

jwoffshore

461 posts

284 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Yeah, I hope we have a rolling chassis in the next couple of months and then there will be something worth showing!

RichardD

3,608 posts

275 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
... the cerbera Chassis and suspension setup is spot on ..
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The main thing with the Cerb is it being 10" (if I remember correctly) more wheelbase and having a cage.

If we ignore the chassis the main difference to the Griff/Chim is at the front with the different double wishbone setup with the alloy upright and thicker anti roll bar.
The ratio between the top and bottom wishbones compared to a Griff/Chim is increased (chassis mount to upright) - which gives greater "camber recovery", so as the car rolls, the more severe angle of the upper wishbone pulls back the top of the wheel a bit.

Apart from the different ARB mounting (and it being thicker) the Cerb has the standard rear wishbone setup. It was refined with different mounting points and a more upright rear shock position for the Sagaris....




SSPPGG

2,120 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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i think Ian had a bare chassis at the growl...cant be far off now

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Ally uprights sound great, those Sierra jobs are heavy. I did once get a price for having some made up but it was too expensive, so I'd be interested to see what you will be pricing them at!

Great to see a new chassis being developed as well, I almost wish mine wasn't so well protected so I could justify a nice shiny new one! Surprised that there are no seat mountings though, that would be a worthwhile improvement.

RichardD

3,608 posts

275 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Shiny thing make it all better smile



VictorMeldrew said:
... Surprised that there are no seat mountings though, that would be a worthwhile improvement.
There is metalwork under the seats - I've some pics taken at the growl you can have if you pm me.