Motorcycle Accidents
Discussion
Yep...
I've often tried to talk myself either out of biking altogether or to downsize from the 'blackbird'. However, the thrill always gets the better of me and the voice in my head keeps saying 'you'll be ok...you can outsmart them, out manoever them etc etc'
Hope I'm right..
Street
I've often tried to talk myself either out of biking altogether or to downsize from the 'blackbird'. However, the thrill always gets the better of me and the voice in my head keeps saying 'you'll be ok...you can outsmart them, out manoever them etc etc'
Hope I'm right..
Street
Streetcop said:
Yep...
I've often tried to talk myself either out of biking altogether or to downsize from the 'blackbird'. However, the thrill always gets the better of me and the voice in my head keeps saying 'you'll be ok...you can outsmart them, out manoever them etc etc'
Hope I'm right..
Street
The danger means I ride a bit less the older I get, but I still really love it. In recent years, I've only had one very major scare, and that was when I was being particularly stupid (about 140mph on a dual carriageway and had a range rover pull out on me).
After 15 years riding, I hope I can anticipate most hazzards through good observation, road placing, and just general knowledge about the idiocy that other road users can manage.
Hopefully the knowledge that I can never be perfect will keep me observant enough that I can manage a good few years more without serious problems.
Streetcop said:Explains the lard arse tourer
I have to blat up and down the motorway at times...
Seriously though, the mille is destined to be a trackday toy with race fairing etc, and I am getting something slower for the road. As I'm sure you know too well it's too easy to do silly speeds on a litre bike.
Streetcop said:
The car v motorcycle accidents stats have been given out by DfT.
In order or frequency, they are as follows:
Private Entrance
Mini-roundabout
Multiple junction
Crossroads
T or Y junctions
Roundabout
Slip-Road
Street
As a non-motorcyclist, I would say that very few of the above (none?) are caused by the m/c speeding. They all seem to be down to a lack of observation on the part of the car. It's the old "looked but did not see" issue.
That indicates to me that the latest government "crack down on motorcyclist speed for their own good" initiative could only ever address a small proportion of m/c accidents, even if that was the desire.
Hi Peter..
I agree, but the accidents that i've listed generally only means small or no injuries...
The crackdown on speeding motorcycles is that the majority of 'fatal accidents' are caused by speed...misjudging overtakes and especially bends resulting in the machine coming into contact with either oncoming vehicles or street furniture.
Street
I agree, but the accidents that i've listed generally only means small or no injuries...
The crackdown on speeding motorcycles is that the majority of 'fatal accidents' are caused by speed...misjudging overtakes and especially bends resulting in the machine coming into contact with either oncoming vehicles or street furniture.
Street
Streetcop, so you're saying it's true that a majority of rider fatalities are caused by excessive speed?
Although I respect anyone's wish to die by riding a bike, I presume most riders don't set out with that as their aim. Therefore I guess their excessive speed is caused by lack of knowledge of the road, misjudging the conditions, or not knowing the limits of their bike? Similar to drivers, then, but with more severe consequences.
I see GP riders come off at huge speeds and survive because of their protection. They obviously don't have street furniture and HGVs to contend with, but is there a case for better clothing? Would it make a big difference?
Although I respect anyone's wish to die by riding a bike, I presume most riders don't set out with that as their aim. Therefore I guess their excessive speed is caused by lack of knowledge of the road, misjudging the conditions, or not knowing the limits of their bike? Similar to drivers, then, but with more severe consequences.
I see GP riders come off at huge speeds and survive because of their protection. They obviously don't have street furniture and HGVs to contend with, but is there a case for better clothing? Would it make a big difference?
Peter Ward said:
Streetcop, so you're saying it's true that a majority of rider fatalities are caused by excessive speed?
Yes mate...that's what the finding are...excessive both of the speed limit and sometimes in the circumstances.
peterward said:
Therefore I guess their excessive speed is caused by lack of knowledge of the road, misjudging the conditions, or not knowing the limits of their bike? Similar to drivers, then, but with more severe consequences.
Absolutely...not enough riders take advanced tuition and in addition many ride too infrequently to become even decently competant, let alone advanced.
peterward said:
but is there a case for better clothing? Would it make a big difference?
No. The clothing worn by street riders is the same as the ones on the track. Leather is always the best idea, but the fabrics like Cordura and such like also have very good abrasion resistant and this backed up with armour in the elbows, knees, shoulders, back etc, further enhances the protection.
It's the extreme closing speed impact with immovable objects that the human body, head and brain can't cope with. The slide down the road is generally ok, providing such protection is worn.
Street
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