Getting confused

[dixiebabes]

Im trying to find out what discs i need for the new princess 4 pot calipers i have just aquired. According to the wedge pages i need Unipart GBD109 or Unipart FDB167. Can anyone tell me which part number is correct for a 1983 350i please? Sizes of the disc would also be a big help. Cheers lads.

Dix

[mrzigazaga]

Hi Dix..I have been scratching my head on this one too, Like i said i was going to let you know as soon as i found out but im not too sure about them myself now..This diagram was sent to me by a friend but i still cant sus out what ones i need?...

I found these that look like they will fit but im still not sure..Anyone else confirm please...Cheers...Ziga
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=f...

They look like they dont have the correct hub plate fittings?..

[dixiebabes]

Thats what i came up with zig the part number is at the top. These are the dimensions my local parts dealer came up with also.

Dix

[JMF894]

MK 2 Granada 260mm vented?

Jimbo

[dixiebabes]

Jim thats the confusing bit Mk2 Granada? I have been told the mk2 is the boxy body that came in different variants such as the top of the range 2.8i ghia x. But some parts suppliers say the mk 2 is the more rounded Scorpio type body which also came tuned by cosworth etc?

Dix

[adam quantrill]

I think you are right - the MK1 was a slightly different shape with more chrome? But I prepare to be corrected....

[Rockettvr]

Mk1 granny is pictured on the opening credits of The Sweeney ( John Thaw) lots of chrome. Mk2 granny is the more boxy one. Then came the "jelly mould" shape Granadas including the cosworth engined Scorpio.

[RCK974X]

For reference.....

The Mk2 granny is indeed the 'boxy' one, bearing a resemblence the the boxy MkIV and V cortinas.
They also had very similar front suspension/crossbar etc arrangements...and shared quite a few engines too. They did share stuff like door/lock hardware and so on.

I always thought the curvy one was a Mk3 and most people called it a 'Scorpio' (whether it really was or not)

The curvy Scorpio has TOTALLY DIFFERENT suspension, disc and sliding calipers (the ones with only one piston in them).

The (original) Granny calipers were in fact the same as the Cortina ones (M16, the metric version of the widely used PB16), but later X pack , and some Estates go the vented disc variety.

As far as I know the only difference in the calipers is the spacing, so the same pads as the non-vents should work, but not absolutely sure about that..
You can by spacer kits for M16 calipers though...

If you specify a 2.8,Mk2 estate, or X pack, you should get the right discs....

[JMF894]

I once owned a 3.0l ghia mk1 granny aka The Sweeney, and a friend had a mk2 which IS the boxy one. There was a mk3 which was more rounded then came the horrific Scorpio which dropped the granny tag and looked like a jelly mould.

Jimbo

[RCK974X]

As I said - I always thought the Jelly Mould one (no doubt following the Sierra styles) WAS the Mk3 and followed directly from the 'boxy' one - Was there one in between or was it a Mk2 with extra body bits ???

[JMF894]

RCK974X said:

As I said - I always thought the Jelly Mould one (no doubt following the Sierra styles) WAS the Mk3 and followed directly from the 'boxy' one - Was there one in between or was it a Mk2 with extra body bits ???

Here we go:

Granada Mk1



Granada Mk2



Granada Mk3



Scorpio



Jimbo

Edited by JMF894 on Monday 20th August 12:20

[dixiebabes]

Cheers jimbo so its the boxy one the mk2 will vented discs off that one Defo fit. I have gas wedge bringing a pair down later in the week to see if they are the right ones

Dix.

[mrzigazaga]

Hi Dix..The brembo ones are a pretty close match..Size for size they look like the ones...Ziga

[dixiebabes]

mrzigazaga said:

Hi Dix..The brembo ones are a pretty close match..Size for size they look like the ones...Ziga

Do you have a link mark just incase johns don't fit?
Dix

[mrzigazaga]

Hi Mate..The link is under the diagram that i first posted up..When comparing the two diagrams the brembo are the closest match...Cheers..Ziga

Here it is again...
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=f...

[RCK974X]

Ahh Yes - thanks for Pics. I forgot about the curvy granny with that sort of earlier style grill.