Midget or Spitfire?
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Antracer

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105 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Im looking at getting a classic runabout & have narrowed it down to one of these. Only thing is im 6ft3". Does this rule the midget out of the equation?.
Also which car is the most fun to drive? Comfortable? Tuning potential handling/power?

Love to hear from any owners or better still someone who has driven both.

Thanks

Spitfire2

1,968 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Antracer said:
Im looking at getting a classic runabout & have narrowed it down to one of these. Only thing is im 6ft3". Does this rule the midget out of the equation?.
Also which car is the most fun to drive? Comfortable? Tuning potential handling/power?

Love to hear from any owners or better still someone who has driven both.

Thanks
Driven both - I prefer Spitfire but they are quite different so you may prefer midget.

Your height should be OK for either to be fair.

Later Spitfires do handle well despite those who say otherwise - but that relies on rear trunnions not being seized (ie maintenance is important).

A spitfire will never keep up with a well sorted/well driven Midget on the twisties but isn't far off. Maintenance on spitfire is easier due to the way better access



MrBrightSi

2,926 posts

199 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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A series midget or 1300cc spitfire.

They all became a bit too rubbery after that.

I had a mk3, was wonderful, as long as you keep ontop of the little bits and bobs they throw up they will never break down or become a problem.

Both cars would be great fun and give you a huge community, nearly 100% of the parts are sold through rimmerbrothers at rather high prices, but they are a reliable source for both Mg and Triumph.

All down to personal preference on looks.

Dave Hedgehog

16,300 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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spitfire, clam shell bonnet is so cool

Spitfire2

1,968 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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MrBrightSi said:
A series midget or 1300cc spitfire.

They all became a bit too rubbery after that.
Disagree. mk4 or 1500 Spitfire no more "rubbery" than a Mk3. Correct for Midget though.

The 1500 Spitfire with the swing spring and longer driveshafts is the one to go for if you want to drive it lots/daily IMO.

Love Mk3 Spitfires but I wouldn't recommend one over a 1500 to someone making the OP's choice.

6fire

406 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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A 1500 spit with overdrive will probably suit you better tan a midget. Easier to work on, more room, good parts availability and fast enough to keep up with modern traffic.

The handling is absoutely fine as well.

MrBrightSi

2,926 posts

199 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Spitfire2 said:
Disagree. mk4 or 1500 Spitfire no more "rubbery" than a Mk3. Correct for Midget though.

The 1500 Spitfire with the swing spring and longer driveshafts is the one to go for if you want to drive it lots/daily IMO.

Love Mk3 Spitfires but I wouldn't recommend one over a 1500 to someone making the OP's choice.
Depends, as tuning potential of the 1300 motors in both midget and spit mk3 are in my eyes a lot easier and better.

otherman

2,265 posts

194 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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I'd go for the spitfire for definate. The midget is so called because its a tiny car.

Aar0sc

279 posts

186 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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I'm 6' 4" and fit in my Spitfire 1500 pretty well - I've tried a midget, and whilst it wasn't awful, it was quite narrow!

Also Spitfires sound better:
http://youtu.be/q6YI6mHw7Pw

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a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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You can always go mental and put a Dolly Sprint engine into a Spit biggrin

Spitfire2

1,968 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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a8hex said:
You can always go mental and put a Dolly Sprint engine into a Spit biggrin
Not easy. Sprint engine is a slant 4. It has been done but it's not a nice fit.

MrBrightSi

2,926 posts

199 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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Metro turbo engines into the midget. K series engines are the popular new thing though.

I do agree, spitfires sound lovely, but the A series is just wow and the 1300 spit engine is damn close to the a series.

Huntsman

9,310 posts

279 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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I'm 6ft 3in too, I have had 2 mark III Spits and one midget, there is plenty of room in the Spit, the Midget has less room once in place but the issue for me was getting in through that little tiny door.

I'd say a Spit is a better proposition for someone our height.

MkIII with overdrive is lovely.

tr7v8

7,620 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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Good Mk3 spit every time. The 8 pot head on the Triumph lump is streets better than the A series. Bigger inside & just a nicer car.

varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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Later spitfires (Mk IV and the 1500) have slightly higher windscreens. I'm just over 6 foot and fitted in mine, but it did help that a lot of the stuffing had fallen out of the seat otherwise I'd have been looking straight at the header rail. There is a surprising amount of leg room in a spit. Never tried a midget, I just assumed I wouldn't fit. Later midgets have the same engine as the spit 1500. As I'm sure you know earlier ones used the A series engine, so loads of tuning parts for those. The most tunable spits are the Mk3 1300, the racers get 120+bhp and 8,000rpm or you can always fit a 2/2.5 Triumph straight 6 but if you are going to do that what you really want is a GT6 convertible to get the uprated suspension and stuff, rather then a spitfire6...if you see what I mean.

LuS1fer

43,477 posts

274 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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I am not sure if you are being "speculative" but amd sure they never made a GT6 convertible.

tr7v8

7,620 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I am not sure if you are being "speculative" but amd sure they never made a GT6 convertible.
No they haven't but a lot of SPits have become I6s & a few GT6s have become spitfire bodied! It is big meccano so unbolting bits & swapping is relatively easy.

Spitfire2

1,968 posts

215 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I am not sure if you are being "speculative" but amd sure they never made a GT6 convertible.
Triumph didn't but many have since. I know of several with TR6 engines too. I prefer the 4 cylinders overall though - the heavy 6 changes the handling a bit too much.

varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I am not sure if you are being "speculative" but amd sure they never made a GT6 convertible.
Yeah, what I meant is there is two ways of doing it, put a GT6 engine in a spitfire to make a Spitfire 6 OR you put a spitfire body on a GT6 chassis/running gear to make a GT6 convertible (or gitfire as I like to call them). The second way is better as there are suspension/braking differences between the two.

In practical terms there's little difference but I would be careful about just dumping a 6 cylinder engine in a spitfire, as others say it's a big old lump and probably requires other changes to the car.

wibble cb

4,143 posts

236 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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6 ft 5 and I fit...(just), always prefered the way spridgets drove compared to spits.