KV-registered cars
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I have recently been looking for nearly new Seat Ibizas with the 1.2tsi engine. When searching AutoTrader, I have noticed that there are a lot of 5-doors registered KV61 XXX. Does anyone know why this could be? My feeling is that they will be ex-Hertz/Avis, etc.
I would prefer a 3-door but the lower prices and slightly higher specs of the 5-doors are appealing, but their history would be a concern.
I would prefer a 3-door but the lower prices and slightly higher specs of the 5-doors are appealing, but their history would be a concern.
Teamsreth said:
The first letter of current plates is to do with the area it was registered. Nothing to do with rental or not.
I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
I know that. K is for Kettering. But a whole fleet of Ibizas begin with KV and appear to have been hire cars.I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
For example, up here near the home of Nissan manufacturing, you see a lot of Nissans registered with the V prefix, despite our local plates being N. These V plate Nissans are Nissan employees who have bought a car on the companies scheme, or a car that has been sold on after this.
Teamsreth said:
The first letter of current plates is to do with the area it was registered. Nothing to do with rental or not.
I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
The first TWO letters refer to the local DVLA office. KM-KY are for Northampton (excluding KQ). As there are only about 40 Offices for the whole of the country, the letters obviously incude a lot of surrounding towns.I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
Teamsreth said:
The first letter of current plates is to do with the area it was registered. Nothing to do with rental or not.
I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
I don't think thats what the OP meant.I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
Its not Northampton that he has noticed, it could equally have been any other registration district where a lease/rental company has a contract with a certain dealer to supply their cars.
e.g. all the company Skodas in our car park are registered in Northampton, and all the BMW's come from Oxford.
He has picked up on the fact that there are a notable number of the same model of car, all registered in the same place, and all for sale at the same time/age.
Quite possible that they are fleet/lease/rentals in that case, as they'll likely be bought 'in bulk' and registered at the same time.
Even more likely if they are being sold in various areas of the country, as a private buyer would generally get a locally sourced car, company cars and rentals generally get sourced in one place and end up wherever, and then sold wherevers closest to where they end up.
Edited by chris1roll on Sunday 19th August 11:01
Dyl said:
I have recently been looking for nearly new Seat Ibizas with the 1.2tsi engine. When searching AutoTrader, I have noticed that there are a lot of 5-doors registered KV61 XXX. Does anyone know why this could be? My feeling is that they will be ex-Hertz/Avis, etc.
I would prefer a 3-door but the lower prices and slightly higher specs of the 5-doors are appealing, but their history would be a concern.
If you're looking for a car that has never been owned by a company it might help to know the following:I would prefer a 3-door but the lower prices and slightly higher specs of the 5-doors are appealing, but their history would be a concern.
In the UK, more new cars are bought by businesses than by private individuals.
For the year ending 2011, the numbers were as follows:
SMMT said:
Total = 1,941,253
Private = 823,094
Fleet = 1,019,126
Business = 99,033
In other words, it might help to know that most of the sales to companies were fleet cars anyway...Private = 823,094
Fleet = 1,019,126
Business = 99,033
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Hi - I'm newly registered here, looking at a used Ibiza 1.2TSi and I've also noticed that there are loads of KV61 registered cars out there. I've had friends and family members who've purchased ex-fleet and ex-rental cars before and had no problems so something like that wouldn't put me off. I think the overall condition of the individual cars is probably just as important as previous history. Plus, most of these Ibizas seem to have the DSG gearbox - I've rented numerous small cars in the past and have never come across one with an automatic gearbox so maybe these aren't ex-rental cars after all?
Dyl]I have recently been looking for nearly new [cars said:
...their history would be a concern.
Who do you think buys news cars and offers them back to the retail trade within months and just a few thousand miles? Certainly not private individuals, very few privately bought new cars re-emerge into the used car market before they're at least two years old (on 24 month PCPs). The vast majority will be manufacturer employee scheme cars, press or corporate demonstrator fleet vehicles, dealer demonstrators or service loan cars or Motability early terminations or ex- daily rental.
If that concerns you, buy new instead and have the peace of mind that only half a dozen or so people have driven it before you...
Edited by Zwolf on Sunday 19th August 23:01
chris1roll said:
Teamsreth said:
The first letter of current plates is to do with the area it was registered. Nothing to do with rental or not.
I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
I don't think thats what the OP meant.I work in Northampton, and our plates start with K. We are nothing to do with rentals.
Its not Northampton that he has noticed, it could equally have been any other registration district where a lease/rental company has a contract with a certain dealer to supply their cars.
e.g. all the company Skodas in our car park are registered in Northampton, and all the BMW's come from Oxford.
He has picked up on the fact that there are a notable number of the same model of car, all registered in the same place, and all for sale at the same time/age.
Quite possible that they are fleet/lease/rentals in that case, as they'll likely be bought 'in bulk' and registered at the same time.
Even more likely if they are being sold in various areas of the country, as a private buyer would generally get a locally sourced car, company cars and rentals generally get sourced in one place and end up wherever, and then sold wherevers closest to where they end up.
Edited by chris1roll on Sunday 19th August 11:01
Plus it would be good to have an idea what to expect before I went. My current car is ex-rental, but I didn't find out til the V5 arrived post-purchase.
Thanks all for your input.
ryanp said:
Hi - I'm newly registered here, looking at a used Ibiza 1.2TSi and I've also noticed that there are loads of KV61 registered cars out there. I've had friends and family members who've purchased ex-fleet and ex-rental cars before and had no problems so something like that wouldn't put me off. I think the overall condition of the individual cars is probably just as important as previous history. Plus, most of these Ibizas seem to have the DSG gearbox - I've rented numerous small cars in the past and have never come across one with an automatic gearbox so maybe these aren't ex-rental cars after all?
That is a good point re:the DSG, which is the model I think I would go for, cheers.Oh, and welcome to PH!
Most "Vauxhall Fleet Management" cars are Kx reg, and most are ex-rentals.
I'd say 90% of manufacturer fleet cars are rentals.
Almost all of the Vauxhalls I've had were ex-rentals with Kx regs originally. Only one was a lemon, a Vectra which need a new engine 4k after I got it. I got it with 16k on the clock, it was ex-AVIS (found an AVIS receipt hidden in the seat pocket).
I'd say 90% of manufacturer fleet cars are rentals.
Almost all of the Vauxhalls I've had were ex-rentals with Kx regs originally. Only one was a lemon, a Vectra which need a new engine 4k after I got it. I got it with 16k on the clock, it was ex-AVIS (found an AVIS receipt hidden in the seat pocket).
Edited by FoundOnRoadside on Monday 20th August 10:31
I guess something along the same lines applies to the Fabia we just bought. V5 showed 2 previous keepers before we bought it (will show 3 when returned in our name).
Car is KS registered, Northampton but the service book shows car supplied by Somerset dealer to it's first owner who lived in Taunton, first service due at 10,000 miles etc - this is dated 8/1/08 whereas car was registered 5/1/08. The car was sold a couple of years later to someone more local, service stamps back this up.
I take it, with the lack of days between registration & 1st 'owner' in the service book, the car has been used as a hire car or press car, am I right in thinking it's a sell through car to get sales figures up?
Car is KS registered, Northampton but the service book shows car supplied by Somerset dealer to it's first owner who lived in Taunton, first service due at 10,000 miles etc - this is dated 8/1/08 whereas car was registered 5/1/08. The car was sold a couple of years later to someone more local, service stamps back this up.
I take it, with the lack of days between registration & 1st 'owner' in the service book, the car has been used as a hire car or press car, am I right in thinking it's a sell through car to get sales figures up?
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