E Type advice please.
Discussion
I am looking to buy a 6 cyl E Type roadster requiring little or no work. There have been several shiney examples this year in the auctions but I am unsure about buying a car that you can't even hear running !
I have now found a restored car in a dealer, 63 roadster, which seems to tick the boxes bar the price (asking price is £85k which seems very high, but prices are all over the place).My ideal budget is circa £65k.
Can anyone tell me how much ex LHD affects the value, it also has a 5 speed box, alternator conversion, and modern ignition. Do these mods hinder the car as far as originality is concerned, or are they just accepted as must have's to make the car reliable and useable. There is also a full retrim which is very smart, but looks far to new for my liking, as I prefer the patina of originality.
What are the other must have's or must doo's please.
Also, if anyone knows of a good car for sale please let me know. Thanks.
I have now found a restored car in a dealer, 63 roadster, which seems to tick the boxes bar the price (asking price is £85k which seems very high, but prices are all over the place).My ideal budget is circa £65k.
Can anyone tell me how much ex LHD affects the value, it also has a 5 speed box, alternator conversion, and modern ignition. Do these mods hinder the car as far as originality is concerned, or are they just accepted as must have's to make the car reliable and useable. There is also a full retrim which is very smart, but looks far to new for my liking, as I prefer the patina of originality.
What are the other must have's or must doo's please.
Also, if anyone knows of a good car for sale please let me know. Thanks.
Unless it's a very early E-type and/or one with some historical significance, sensible mods can increase the value.
As with all car purchases the best advice is to do your homework and get professional advice if you don't feel you have enough knowledge to carry out a comprehensive inspection yourself.
My E-type is undergoing restoration at the moment and the modifications I've gone for are - five speed gearbox, alternator, uprated brakes, wider wheels/tyres, electronic ignition + a few others.
£85k isn't expensive for a fully and correctly restored roadster but you would have to ascertain that the car is indeed in that category.
As with all car purchases the best advice is to do your homework and get professional advice if you don't feel you have enough knowledge to carry out a comprehensive inspection yourself.
My E-type is undergoing restoration at the moment and the modifications I've gone for are - five speed gearbox, alternator, uprated brakes, wider wheels/tyres, electronic ignition + a few others.
£85k isn't expensive for a fully and correctly restored roadster but you would have to ascertain that the car is indeed in that category.
If I were buying one (and I may well at some point) even though I know what I'm doing I'd have the car looked at by a marque specialist or at the very least a knowledgeable owner of a similar car(s) who would know the model specifics to look for. The value of these now means that a few hundred pounds paid for a professional inspection would be a must have at the top of my list. Especially in the case of a car which has had a RHD conversion and other upgrades. Caveat emptor.
An independant inspection by a marque specialist is something I always do when buying a car of this nature. I often find though that they all find different things, as I found out last year with a Dino puchase ( I had two inspections done).
Its the opinion and advice of owners on sites like this that I value highly as there is no financial motive involved. Often it throws up points and advice that are overlooked or not part of an inspection.
How much importance should be put on a heritage certificate, and is a LHD conversion worth less than the same car in original RHD. Do people avoid conversions ?
Another thing that I am really unsure about is that with so many made, how easy are they to move on if you decide to sell. I tend to keep my cars for several years, but they did make a lot of them !
Its the opinion and advice of owners on sites like this that I value highly as there is no financial motive involved. Often it throws up points and advice that are overlooked or not part of an inspection.
How much importance should be put on a heritage certificate, and is a LHD conversion worth less than the same car in original RHD. Do people avoid conversions ?
Another thing that I am really unsure about is that with so many made, how easy are they to move on if you decide to sell. I tend to keep my cars for several years, but they did make a lot of them !
dudlow said:
Another thing that I am really unsure about is that with so many made, how easy are they to move on if you decide to sell. I tend to keep my cars for several years, but they did make a lot of them !
That all depends on the price/value.I've been looking at a few over the last year or so and almost all the cars I've looked at
are still for sale.
The 'mania' of last year's 50th anniversary is no longer with us.
Edited by Elderly on Monday 20th August 22:44
dudlow said:
An independant inspection by a marque specialist is something I always do when buying a car of this nature. I often find though that they all find different things, as I found out last year with a Dino puchase ( I had two inspections done)
I hope that neither found anything serious which the other missed. If either had missed something serious, I'd be thinking twice before paying them. Assuming that you are referring to a professional arrangement as opposed to a private one?Always worth talking to current owners and e type experts.
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At the moment (and I've had long chats with two dealers yesterday) the market seems to be at the best stagnating and worst softening, so there are deals to be had. Firstly, the most user-friendly car and most sought after in the 1964/7 4.2, since it has the benefit of the Jaguar synchro box, better seats (you'll appreciate them if you do a longish journey) and a different dashboard. Fashions change though, and a while back it was the V12 that was all the rage, but petrol consumption put an end to that. It is most important that the shell of the car is good, since to restore that will make your eyes water. The mechanics, by comparison, are reasonably cheap with VSE carrying out a full rebuild from about £4K upwards depending on specification. The engines are very tough, despite what people say, and provided they are properly serviced go on virtually for ever. Mine has done about 80,000 since the last rebuild, and only recently has started to sip oil at the rate of 1 litre/1,000 miles - well within the parameters one can expect.
Have you ever driven a car with the Moss gearbox? A '63 car should have this and it's easy to tell the difference even before starting the engine, because reverse is left and up on the Moss but left and down on the Jaguar one. You'll have to refine your double-declutching technique with a Moss box since there is no synchro on first and on second it's so weak as to be useless. Personally I love it and while I have both boxes there is a satisfaction in getting it right with the Moss.
Cooling, as with many old cars, is marginal and many have now fitted an expansion tank to cope with this problem If I had a pound for every time someone has told me I have a leak I'd be rich! Worth, assuming modern hoses, fitting a 13lb pressure cap to the radiator since the original at 4lb is useless.
Brakes; I'd reckon a car at this price will have uprated Coopercraft or Zeus fitted (same thing, jusr different name on them) and while I lasted over 20 years on the originals I finally cracked and fitted Zeus - and they make a hell of a difference I can tell you!
Hood fit; despite what people say,a good hood will keep you pretty dry, but for goodmess sake make sure the car has the plastic sheeting fitted in the doors, or else water will go down in the door and instead of exiting outside will run off the sill and inside. I know, since my plastics disintegrated years ago and we carry two small towels to put on each sill when it's raining.
An E-type is a fantastic experience, and while not the best handling car in standard form will not deceive you if you respect its limits. I've driven the car from 0-130 mph in top alone, slipping the clutch to 12mph and driving it up slowly from there, so strong is the torque. As regards getting the car examined, both the JDC and JEC have people who will carry this out for you, and such are the pitfalls I wouldn't recommend you buy without such expert advice. You could, for a reasonable sum, be saving yourself a considerable amount of grief and cost. You mention LHD/RHD conversions, and some years back they were frowned on and were worth a lot less than a "correct" car, but the gap seems to have narrowed, ad similarly, like mph, mods such as 5 speed boxes and others are two a penny now. People want the experience but not the inconvenience of an old car. My reaction though is that this is strong money for a converted car, and you could find a "right'un" at the same money.
From experience I've seen a number of people badly burned by leaping in and buying with little knowledge. "Marry in haste, repent at leisure" should be your byword. If it was me, I'd join one of the clubs, get to know people and look at the cars for sale privately by club members. If you want to pm me I'll give you details of people to contact in your area. Best of luck.
ETA Now this is "patina"!
Have you ever driven a car with the Moss gearbox? A '63 car should have this and it's easy to tell the difference even before starting the engine, because reverse is left and up on the Moss but left and down on the Jaguar one. You'll have to refine your double-declutching technique with a Moss box since there is no synchro on first and on second it's so weak as to be useless. Personally I love it and while I have both boxes there is a satisfaction in getting it right with the Moss.
Cooling, as with many old cars, is marginal and many have now fitted an expansion tank to cope with this problem If I had a pound for every time someone has told me I have a leak I'd be rich! Worth, assuming modern hoses, fitting a 13lb pressure cap to the radiator since the original at 4lb is useless.
Brakes; I'd reckon a car at this price will have uprated Coopercraft or Zeus fitted (same thing, jusr different name on them) and while I lasted over 20 years on the originals I finally cracked and fitted Zeus - and they make a hell of a difference I can tell you!
Hood fit; despite what people say,a good hood will keep you pretty dry, but for goodmess sake make sure the car has the plastic sheeting fitted in the doors, or else water will go down in the door and instead of exiting outside will run off the sill and inside. I know, since my plastics disintegrated years ago and we carry two small towels to put on each sill when it's raining.
An E-type is a fantastic experience, and while not the best handling car in standard form will not deceive you if you respect its limits. I've driven the car from 0-130 mph in top alone, slipping the clutch to 12mph and driving it up slowly from there, so strong is the torque. As regards getting the car examined, both the JDC and JEC have people who will carry this out for you, and such are the pitfalls I wouldn't recommend you buy without such expert advice. You could, for a reasonable sum, be saving yourself a considerable amount of grief and cost. You mention LHD/RHD conversions, and some years back they were frowned on and were worth a lot less than a "correct" car, but the gap seems to have narrowed, ad similarly, like mph, mods such as 5 speed boxes and others are two a penny now. People want the experience but not the inconvenience of an old car. My reaction though is that this is strong money for a converted car, and you could find a "right'un" at the same money.
From experience I've seen a number of people badly burned by leaping in and buying with little knowledge. "Marry in haste, repent at leisure" should be your byword. If it was me, I'd join one of the clubs, get to know people and look at the cars for sale privately by club members. If you want to pm me I'll give you details of people to contact in your area. Best of luck.
ETA Now this is "patina"!
Edited by lowdrag on Tuesday 21st August 08:58
lowdrag said:
At the moment (and I've had long chats with two dealers yesterday) the market seems to be at the best stagnating and worst softening, so there are deals to be had. Firstly, the most user-friendly car and most sought after in the 1964/7 4.2, since it has the benefit of the Jaguar synchro box, better seats (you'll appreciate them if you do a longish journey) and a different dashboard. Fashions change though, and a while back it was the V12 that was all the rage, but petrol consumption put an end to that. It is most important that the shell of the car is good, since to restore that will make your eyes water. The mechanics, by comparison, are reasonably cheap with VSE carrying out a full rebuild from about £4K upwards depending on specification. The engines are very tough, despite what people say, and provided they are properly serviced go on virtually for ever. Mine has done about 80,000 since the last rebuild, and only recently has started to sip oil at the rate of 1 litre/1,000 miles - well within the parameters one can expect.
Have you ever driven a car with the Moss gearbox? A '63 car should have this and it's easy to tell the difference even before starting the engine, because reverse is left and up on the Moss but left and down on the Jaguar one. You'll have to refine your double-declutching technique with a Moss box since there is no synchro on first and on second it's so weak as to be useless. Personally I love it and while I have both boxes there is a satisfaction in getting it right with the Moss.
Cooling, as with many old cars, is marginal and many have now fitted an expansion tank to cope with this problem If I had a pound for every time someone has told me I have a leak I'd be rich! Worth, assuming modern hoses, fitting a 13lb pressure cap to the radiator since the original at 4lb is useless.
Brakes; I'd reckon a car at this price will have uprated Coopercraft or Zeus fitted (same thing, jusr different name on them) and while I lasted over 20 years on the originals I finally cracked and fitted Zeus - and they make a hell of a difference I can tell you!
Hood fit; despite what people say,a good hood will keep you pretty dry, but for goodmess sake make sure the car has the plastic sheeting fitted in the doors, or else water will go down in the door and instead of exiting outside will run off the sill and inside. I know, since my plastics disintegrated years ago and we carry two small towels to put on each sill when it's raining.
An E-type is a fantastic experience, and while not the best handling car in standard form will not deceive you if you respect its limits. I've driven the car from 0-130 mph in top alone, slipping the clutch to 12mph and driving it up slowly from there, so strong is the torque. As regards getting the car examined, both the JDC and JEC have people who will carry this out for you, and such are the pitfalls I wouldn't recommend you buy without such expert advice. You could, for a reasonable sum, be saving yourself a considerable amount of grief and cost. You mention LHD/RHD conversions, and some years back they were frowned on and were worth a lot less than a "correct" car, but the gap seems to have narrowed, ad similarly, like mph, mods such as 5 speed boxes and others are two a penny now. People want the experience but not the inconvenience of an old car. My reaction though is that this is strong money for a converted car, and you could find a "right'un" at the same money.
From experience I've seen a number of people badly burned by leaping in and buying with little knowledge. "Marry in haste, repent at leisure" should be your byword. If it was me, I'd join one of the clubs, get to know people and look at the cars for sale privately by club members. If you want to pm me I'll give you details of people to contact in your area. Best of luck.
ETA Now this is "patina"!
Many thanks for such a helpful and detailed response. You have a pm.Have you ever driven a car with the Moss gearbox? A '63 car should have this and it's easy to tell the difference even before starting the engine, because reverse is left and up on the Moss but left and down on the Jaguar one. You'll have to refine your double-declutching technique with a Moss box since there is no synchro on first and on second it's so weak as to be useless. Personally I love it and while I have both boxes there is a satisfaction in getting it right with the Moss.
Cooling, as with many old cars, is marginal and many have now fitted an expansion tank to cope with this problem If I had a pound for every time someone has told me I have a leak I'd be rich! Worth, assuming modern hoses, fitting a 13lb pressure cap to the radiator since the original at 4lb is useless.
Brakes; I'd reckon a car at this price will have uprated Coopercraft or Zeus fitted (same thing, jusr different name on them) and while I lasted over 20 years on the originals I finally cracked and fitted Zeus - and they make a hell of a difference I can tell you!
Hood fit; despite what people say,a good hood will keep you pretty dry, but for goodmess sake make sure the car has the plastic sheeting fitted in the doors, or else water will go down in the door and instead of exiting outside will run off the sill and inside. I know, since my plastics disintegrated years ago and we carry two small towels to put on each sill when it's raining.
An E-type is a fantastic experience, and while not the best handling car in standard form will not deceive you if you respect its limits. I've driven the car from 0-130 mph in top alone, slipping the clutch to 12mph and driving it up slowly from there, so strong is the torque. As regards getting the car examined, both the JDC and JEC have people who will carry this out for you, and such are the pitfalls I wouldn't recommend you buy without such expert advice. You could, for a reasonable sum, be saving yourself a considerable amount of grief and cost. You mention LHD/RHD conversions, and some years back they were frowned on and were worth a lot less than a "correct" car, but the gap seems to have narrowed, ad similarly, like mph, mods such as 5 speed boxes and others are two a penny now. People want the experience but not the inconvenience of an old car. My reaction though is that this is strong money for a converted car, and you could find a "right'un" at the same money.
From experience I've seen a number of people badly burned by leaping in and buying with little knowledge. "Marry in haste, repent at leisure" should be your byword. If it was me, I'd join one of the clubs, get to know people and look at the cars for sale privately by club members. If you want to pm me I'll give you details of people to contact in your area. Best of luck.
ETA Now this is "patina"!
Edited by lowdrag on Tuesday 21st August 08:58
Edited by dudlow on Tuesday 21st August 10:17
Edited by dudlow on Tuesday 21st August 10:19
dartissimus said:
An E type is like a Suicide Blond..... to die for.
Spectacular to look at,very high maintainance and will ultimately break both your heart and your wallet.
Oh, and probably disapointing under the skin
Enjoy the ride
Ah, the old myths don't die do they? in the last two years my E-type has done 15,000 miles in 9 countries. Ignoring fuel, the running costs have been:-Spectacular to look at,very high maintainance and will ultimately break both your heart and your wallet.
Oh, and probably disapointing under the skin
Enjoy the ride
£140 for diff seal, a couple of propshaft U/Js (but after 100,000 miles warranted I guess) front brake pads.
£74 Brake master cylinder
£51 New in-line brake switch and new H/T cables.
£136 exhaust mountings, plug caps and oil pressure sender.
£297 Full service.
£74 Servo bellows
£214 Spark plugs, oil filter, condenser, rear exhaust box (it wasn't the take-off but the landing after a mountain railway crossing that caused it)
So, for under £1,000 I had a ball. I have excluded here £1,805 for a new set of five painted wires (they were 25 years old) and a new set of tyres, which anyway are consumables.
And disappointing? Not on your life! A better long distance tourer, a car which can track day and do hill climbs - even in standard trim - with such a WOW factor would be hard to find. Every time I get into her it is a love affair renewed. I've had more fun with just my socks on, but rarely with my trousers on too. She isn't blonde either, because she is far too intelligent for that
ETA despite doing 58 mountain passes in the Alps last year, the overall fuel consumption was still around 23 mph.
Edited by lowdrag on Tuesday 21st August 13:36
1954etype said:
dartissimus said:
An E type is like a Suicide Blond..... to die for.
Spectacular to look at,very high maintainance and will ultimately break both your heart and your wallet.
Oh, and probably disapointing under the skin
Enjoy the ride
You're talkjng b****cks mate. Spectacular to look at,very high maintainance and will ultimately break both your heart and your wallet.
Oh, and probably disapointing under the skin
Enjoy the ride
ks. Give Peter Hugo a call at Winspeed in Guildford, he has a few e's around your budget. Mechanical;ly they are strong, reliable and amazingly modern to drive.
lowdrag said:
At the moment (and I've had long chats with two dealers yesterday) the market seems to be at the best stagnating and worst softening, so there are deals to be had. Firstly, the most user-friendly car and most sought after in the 1964/7 4.2, since it has the benefit of the Jaguar synchro box, better seats (you'll appreciate them if you do a longish journey) and a different dashboard. Fashions change though, and a while back it was the V12 that was all the rage, but petrol consumption put an end to that. It is most important that the shell of the car is good, since to restore that will make your eyes water. The mechanics, by comparison, are reasonably cheap with VSE carrying out a full rebuild from about £4K upwards depending on specification. The engines are very tough, despite what people say, and provided they are properly serviced go on virtually for ever. Mine has done about 80,000 since the last rebuild, and only recently has started to sip oil at the rate of 1 litre/1,000 miles - well within the parameters one can expect.
Have you ever driven a car with the Moss gearbox? A '63 car should have this and it's easy to tell the difference even before starting the engine, because reverse is left and up on the Moss but left and down on the Jaguar one. You'll have to refine your double-declutching technique with a Moss box since there is no synchro on first and on second it's so weak as to be useless. Personally I love it and while I have both boxes there is a satisfaction in getting it right with the Moss.
Cooling, as with many old cars, is marginal and many have now fitted an expansion tank to cope with this problem If I had a pound for every time someone has told me I have a leak I'd be rich! Worth, assuming modern hoses, fitting a 13lb pressure cap to the radiator since the original at 4lb is useless.
Brakes; I'd reckon a car at this price will have uprated Coopercraft or Zeus fitted (same thing, jusr different name on them) and while I lasted over 20 years on the originals I finally cracked and fitted Zeus - and they make a hell of a difference I can tell you!
Hood fit; despite what people say,a good hood will keep you pretty dry, but for goodmess sake make sure the car has the plastic sheeting fitted in the doors, or else water will go down in the door and instead of exiting outside will run off the sill and inside. I know, since my plastics disintegrated years ago and we carry two small towels to put on each sill when it's raining.
An E-type is a fantastic experience, and while not the best handling car in standard form will not deceive you if you respect its limits. I've driven the car from 0-130 mph in top alone, slipping the clutch to 12mph and driving it up slowly from there, so strong is the torque. As regards getting the car examined, both the JDC and JEC have people who will carry this out for you, and such are the pitfalls I wouldn't recommend you buy without such expert advice. You could, for a reasonable sum, be saving yourself a considerable amount of grief and cost. You mention LHD/RHD conversions, and some years back they were frowned on and were worth a lot less than a "correct" car, but the gap seems to have narrowed, ad similarly, like mph, mods such as 5 speed boxes and others are two a penny now. People want the experience but not the inconvenience of an old car. My reaction though is that this is strong money for a converted car, and you could find a "right'un" at the same money.
From experience I've seen a number of people badly burned by leaping in and buying with little knowledge. "Marry in haste, repent at leisure" should be your byword. If it was me, I'd join one of the clubs, get to know people and look at the cars for sale privately by club members. If you want to pm me I'll give you details of people to contact in your area. Best of luck.
ETA Now this is "patina"!
What a great write up. I have a Fixed Head 1965 . Bought from a reputable dealer - two years later failed MOT and ended up doing a total re-build( had filler in the main A frame). ALWAYS get a specialist to look at it irrespective where you purchase it from. I can give you the name of someone who is on the JEC panel if you pm me. Once you have found one ( or re built one) IMO there is nothing better on the road ( and I am lucky to have driven quite a few cars over the years).Have you ever driven a car with the Moss gearbox? A '63 car should have this and it's easy to tell the difference even before starting the engine, because reverse is left and up on the Moss but left and down on the Jaguar one. You'll have to refine your double-declutching technique with a Moss box since there is no synchro on first and on second it's so weak as to be useless. Personally I love it and while I have both boxes there is a satisfaction in getting it right with the Moss.
Cooling, as with many old cars, is marginal and many have now fitted an expansion tank to cope with this problem If I had a pound for every time someone has told me I have a leak I'd be rich! Worth, assuming modern hoses, fitting a 13lb pressure cap to the radiator since the original at 4lb is useless.
Brakes; I'd reckon a car at this price will have uprated Coopercraft or Zeus fitted (same thing, jusr different name on them) and while I lasted over 20 years on the originals I finally cracked and fitted Zeus - and they make a hell of a difference I can tell you!
Hood fit; despite what people say,a good hood will keep you pretty dry, but for goodmess sake make sure the car has the plastic sheeting fitted in the doors, or else water will go down in the door and instead of exiting outside will run off the sill and inside. I know, since my plastics disintegrated years ago and we carry two small towels to put on each sill when it's raining.
An E-type is a fantastic experience, and while not the best handling car in standard form will not deceive you if you respect its limits. I've driven the car from 0-130 mph in top alone, slipping the clutch to 12mph and driving it up slowly from there, so strong is the torque. As regards getting the car examined, both the JDC and JEC have people who will carry this out for you, and such are the pitfalls I wouldn't recommend you buy without such expert advice. You could, for a reasonable sum, be saving yourself a considerable amount of grief and cost. You mention LHD/RHD conversions, and some years back they were frowned on and were worth a lot less than a "correct" car, but the gap seems to have narrowed, ad similarly, like mph, mods such as 5 speed boxes and others are two a penny now. People want the experience but not the inconvenience of an old car. My reaction though is that this is strong money for a converted car, and you could find a "right'un" at the same money.
From experience I've seen a number of people badly burned by leaping in and buying with little knowledge. "Marry in haste, repent at leisure" should be your byword. If it was me, I'd join one of the clubs, get to know people and look at the cars for sale privately by club members. If you want to pm me I'll give you details of people to contact in your area. Best of luck.
ETA Now this is "patina"!
Edited by lowdrag on Tuesday 21st August 08:58
Yes a great write up Lowdrag.
There are some really bad examples parading around all glossy with a mountain of plop under the coat....All skirt and no knickers.
So a sound body is an absolute must as the metal can cost you up to 30k to put right, I personally think this is the most important part to get right as the mechanicals are relatively cheap.
Left to right conversions really not an issue as all cars were built to take both so no drilling and no welding needed, so a very easy job and nobody would ever know it had been done except by chassis number.
There are some really bad examples parading around all glossy with a mountain of plop under the coat....All skirt and no knickers.
So a sound body is an absolute must as the metal can cost you up to 30k to put right, I personally think this is the most important part to get right as the mechanicals are relatively cheap.
Left to right conversions really not an issue as all cars were built to take both so no drilling and no welding needed, so a very easy job and nobody would ever know it had been done except by chassis number.
1954etype said:
dartissimus said:
An E type is like a Suicide Blond..... to die for.
Spectacular to look at,very high maintainance and will ultimately break both your heart and your wallet.
Oh, and probably disapointing under the skin
Enjoy the ride
You're talkjng b****cks mate. Spectacular to look at,very high maintainance and will ultimately break both your heart and your wallet.
Oh, and probably disapointing under the skin
Enjoy the ride
But, I have to say, before the abuse starts, I'm not an expert and I've never owned one, so it's just my impression gained over a couple of long drives.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I've driven a couple of early E-types and been disappointed. Not very fast (by modern standards), rubbish brakes, rubbish headlights, uncomfortable and generally not very good. But....they look utterly fantastic.
Well if you are comparing an E-Type to a modern car than of of course itsNot very fast
rubbish brakes
rubbish headlights
uncomfortable
...
Its fifty years old.
On the other hand, very few modern cars are fun to drive, largely because very few modern cars actually let you have very much to do with the driving, preferring to flatter you with electronic controls which are, by and large, far better at it then you will ever be. But if you are after enjoyment from your driving then surely you want to know it is you doing the driving and not some soulless piece of silicon.
To my mind, I find the E too modern, too accomplished and prefer to have something "worse" as a toy.
As for being "Not very fast" well it was fast enough to see off all but the most extreme of contemporary exotics and scared their makers to greater heights.
"Rubbish brakes" it was made at a time when the vast majority of road cars were still using drums all round where stopping from any great speed was mostly achieved via prayer. However my previous generation Jaguar (XK150) would still happily brake with the modern flow of traffic even before I started to uprate its anchors and on the track was able to handle braking from speed well past the point where your road brain has told you that you are definitely going to die.
Am I missing something.....Have I not lived?
"Not very fast" I think a nicely set up Etype feels very fast and the drive quite amazing especially when they're 50 yrs old.
I've driven cars of the same era and even a decade on and they don't even come close.
I'm used to some nice quick cars but the E always feels very special
"Not very fast" I think a nicely set up Etype feels very fast and the drive quite amazing especially when they're 50 yrs old.
I've driven cars of the same era and even a decade on and they don't even come close.
I'm used to some nice quick cars but the E always feels very special
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