has my turbo just blown? bmw e46 320d 2002
Discussion
just driving today and had a pop sound when accelerating, pulled over to check under bonnet and no smoke etc. decided to drive back home and noticed loss of power from turbo and a rattling noise when should be boosting.
is this the sign of turbo failuire or part of turbo or could it be a pipe split loose or something? i thought there should be smoke when the turbo goes.
please advise
is this the sign of turbo failuire or part of turbo or could it be a pipe split loose or something? i thought there should be smoke when the turbo goes.
please advise
steebo888 said:
Speedracer329 said:
It has to be a split hose or a hose that has been blown off, a turbo going & you would see nothing behind you for white smoke!
i did think that as well but am prepared for the worst
Split hose probably. Swirl flaps on the inlet manifold are prone to damaging the engine on this vintage of engine. Worth checking that if there are no obvious signs of leaks elsewhere.
Seam actually split on the manifold on my old 330d, easy one to spot though as the entire side of the engine bay was covered in s
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Seam actually split on the manifold on my old 330d, easy one to spot though as the entire side of the engine bay was covered in s
tesoda said:
Split hose probably. Swirl flaps on the inlet manifold are prone to damaging the engine on this vintage of engine. Worth checking that if there are no obvious signs of leaks elsewhere.
Seam actually split on the manifold on my old 330d, easy one to spot though as the entire side of the engine bay was covered in ste
cheers mateSeam actually split on the manifold on my old 330d, easy one to spot though as the entire side of the engine bay was covered in s
teswirl flaps were removed when bought car and well as changing to the vortext oil breather.
will update on findings
took it to a garage who did a quick inspection as they were closing.
advised defo noise from the turbo and if loss of boost then high chance its gone and needs recon or replace. They can confirm this on tues as they need to get underneath etc and fully inspect everything.
im gonna look further at this when the rain stops and i can get under car as i got a few days before they can look at it properly.
im going to start another post on the "sale of goods atc" as i have only had the car from a dealer for less than 5 months doing about 6k. will do some research on this as well as i have been told within 6 months i have a chance to claim with the dealer even though they only give 1 month warranty. also i will call the supplying garage first on tuesday to see if they can help
advised defo noise from the turbo and if loss of boost then high chance its gone and needs recon or replace. They can confirm this on tues as they need to get underneath etc and fully inspect everything.
im gonna look further at this when the rain stops and i can get under car as i got a few days before they can look at it properly.
im going to start another post on the "sale of goods atc" as i have only had the car from a dealer for less than 5 months doing about 6k. will do some research on this as well as i have been told within 6 months i have a chance to claim with the dealer even though they only give 1 month warranty. also i will call the supplying garage first on tuesday to see if they can help
steebo888 said:
im going to start another post on the "sale of goods atc" as i have only had the car from a dealer for less than 5 months doing about 6k. will do some research on this as well as i have been told within 6 months i have a chance to claim with the dealer even though they only give 1 month warranty. also i will call the supplying garage first on tuesday to see if they can help
Oh come on, not another one! The car is ten years old! Papa Hotel said:
Oh come on, not another one! The car is ten years old!
your right its 10 years old but up to a grand bill after 4.5 months is alot to shell out so soon. will talk to garage first on tues as even if they contribute something then thats good enough for me but if they dont wanna know then 1 grand is alot of money.another bmw owner has same issue and claimed under sale of goods act and won - see comments below from his post
In short, I won my case today in the Crown Court and was awarded every penny on the £1200 I'd spent on repairs and my court fees of almost £200.
The judge stuck firmly to the Sale of Goods Act (as you would expect) and pointed out that the warranty provided by the dealer (in my case 28 days) is irrelevant to the process. It doesn't matter if you are offered 5 minutes or 5 years by the dealer, all of that is secondary to the Sale of Goods Act which lasts for as long as is considered reasonable.
For the first 6 months after your purchase if something goes wrong it is up to the dealer to prove the fault wasn't present when you bought it. After 6 months you have to prove the fault was there when you purchased it. In the case of a blown turbo it is just about impossible to say when it starts to wear (some people would argue that it starts to wear as soon as it is used) so the dealer cannot prove the fault wasn't there when he sold it. We had an independant report done which said exactly the same thing so as I had only had the car 4 months I was pretty much sure to win my case.
Papa Hotel said:
Oh come on, not another one! The car is ten years old!
This.I dont think you've got any chance of claiming it wasnt fit for purpose as it's a well used car and you drove it for five months and 6k miles.
Also do you trust the garage that made the failed turbo diagnosis? Sounds much more like a split hose or similar to me, although turbos do sometime fail without making a mess of themselves.
Edit: Just read your post above with the person who won their case. All I can say is Jesus Christ.... I'm all for consumer protection but that's just stupid. How could the dealer possibly have known at the point of sale that the turbo would pop if it wasn't noisy/smokey. Really glad I'm not in the used car trade!
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 25th August 18:44
charltjr said:
This.
I dont think you've got any chance of claiming it wasnt fit for purpose as it's a well used car and you drove it for five months and 6k miles.
Also do you trust the garage that made the failed turbo diagnosis? Sounds much more like a split hose or similar to me, although turbos do sometime fail without making a mess of themselves.
im hoping dont have to go down this route but my case is very similar to the other bmw owners case so i have a chance. its only more difficult after 6 months.I dont think you've got any chance of claiming it wasnt fit for purpose as it's a well used car and you drove it for five months and 6k miles.
Also do you trust the garage that made the failed turbo diagnosis? Sounds much more like a split hose or similar to me, although turbos do sometime fail without making a mess of themselves.
will have a full diagmosis on tues and maybe get a second garage to check, also i will phone the dealer first on tuesday. i know its 10 years old etc so even if the delaer contributed or at least got their own garage to do it cheaper then its something rather than nothing. only if they refuse to even look at the car or help me then i will seek the legal route as £1000 is alot of money to shell out
iva cosworth said:
You admit to doing 6000 miles in it since purchase,so good luck proving
it was faulty before buying
sale of goods act states that dealer has to prove it was fit for purpose when bought if it goes wrong in first 6 months. as with a similar case its hard to prove this on a turbo without a full test done on it prior to buying so i have a high chanceit was faulty before buying
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