GT5 after the years of updates - much better?
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I defected to Forza after getting GT5 at midnight upon launch. As you will all know, it was a little ropey to begin with and I've just started again and reinstalled it with the 2.07 patch. All 600mb of it. I'm also starting the game from scratch 
So, before I waste a Sunday, is it dramatically different that before and if so, what's changed?
David
So, before I waste a Sunday, is it dramatically different that before and if so, what's changed?
David
Baryonyx said:
The handling still feels like a rubber dinghy being towed by a speedboat compared to the excellent handling physics in Forza.
I'd say that's overly harsh. I still enjoy it. It's much more 'real' than forza I find. If your free on Wednesdays or Sunday's there are championships still running.
Baryonyx said:
The handling still feels like a rubber dinghy being towed by a speedboat compared to the excellent handling physics in Forza.
I think GT5 has better phyisics TBH.ETA
I never just load the game up and go for a drive with Forza, whereas with GT5 I do. Probably isn't importtant to anyone else, but it is to me. I've done 3000 miles with TDU 1s handling system, and if anything can be described as bad handling it's TDU 1! My Desmosedici RR on TDU 2 has 1800 miles... (Having only had it 3/4 weeks)
GT5 has better online play I think, being able to choose the lobby is such an advantage over Forza. (unless I've missed that bit somehow)
The cars just "feel" better with GT5, and the graphics are far superior on all 3 TVs I have, although GT5 lacks Forza's excellent livery editor, which makes the racing feel better, although I would prefer the AI to have liveried cars as well, even if they were only preset driver specific liveries just applied on.
The racing is much better on Forza, the AI actually races, even if it has it's stupid moments. Unlike GT5s, which just don't really do that much. The events themselves are better thought out as well (though I prefer GT4s layout over both) one make series are featured much better in Forza over GT5, though I don't like the win 1 or 2 races and get to level 4 affinity where parts become free thing.
Prototype racing is much better on Forza, except for the lack of a Le Mans 24 and Indy 500, both of which are in GT5, and F1 is completely missed out on FM4. Ok, it only has a tiny part in GT5, with 2 ferraris and GT's own Formula GT, itself carried over from GT4, though it has gained a nice cockpit view since 4.
Trackwise, GT5 has the better selection, and has rallying, admittedly laughably constrained, GT4s was much better than GT5s. And you had trackdays on GT4...
I would say GT5 was overhyped, certainly wasn't up to what I thought it was going to be. I thought they could carry the bikes over from Tourist Trophy with the cars from GT4, expand GT4s already fairly widespread racing, add in a few features like making your own tracks (which definitely did not live up to pre release statements) In short be a great driving game.
Instead we got less events, the ones which were carried on got shortened:
GT4 Formula GT - 10 races of real race length, including the proper Nurburgring, GT5 - 6, all shortened down, and you aren't even allowed to use Ferrari's real F1 cars...
GT3 JGTC 3 championships of ten races, GT4 JGTC - 10 races, GT5 only 3! None of them were anywhere near real length...
Lupo GTi one make GT4 - 5, GT5 - 1.
GT world championship - GT3 3 championships of 10 races, featuring rally cars in the least difficult championship to prototypes in the hardest, GT4 one championship of 10 races of decent length, GT5 5 races, which got shortened in length...
Plus many, many more examples.
Also, it was advertised as a 16 cars on grid game, when really, it was 12 AI cars at most in the career mode.
Oh, and GT5 could probably work as a bike racing game if they were to just copy and paste from the bike game they did do with GT4.
In fact, it would work better, there are more on the roads courses in 5 than 4, and the capacity to make your own course would work really well.
And lets face it, GT4/TT still look fairly current graphic wise:
FM4 -
GT5 -
Not that far off each other, IMO. (Ok, the back ground in the bike pic is blurred, but at least it's a kneedown pic...)
A few more pics...
CBR 954
NSR 250R SE
C6 ZR1 RM
C5.R
Alfa 155 DTM
CB400 Four
Ducati 999R
BMW K1200S
Honda XR 250
Edited by CBR JGWRR on Sunday 26th August 18:59
Edited by CBR JGWRR on Monday 27th August 12:06
Edited by CBR JGWRR on Tuesday 28th August 17:29
I have to agree with the others, i stopped playing 6 months ago.
I havent got any intention of going back to it.
I don't think there is a single reason people feel this way, just that gt4 had that, bring you back factor, this one just doesn't have.
Even with the dlc.
Now Skyrim on the other hand.
I havent got any intention of going back to it.
I don't think there is a single reason people feel this way, just that gt4 had that, bring you back factor, this one just doesn't have.
Even with the dlc.
Now Skyrim on the other hand.
Ah! I cant have this!
For all it's faults, GT5 is at times a stunning game!
Get a handful of good racers in Caterhams, all aids off (including abs) on Comfort tyres. As much fun as doing it for real!
Plus the time transitions on some tracks look incredible.
Ill happily moan about its flaws, but I've put more time into that game than any other - and I'm a fully paid up nerd.
For all it's faults, GT5 is at times a stunning game!
Get a handful of good racers in Caterhams, all aids off (including abs) on Comfort tyres. As much fun as doing it for real!
Plus the time transitions on some tracks look incredible.
Ill happily moan about its flaws, but I've put more time into that game than any other - and I'm a fully paid up nerd.
MocMocaMoc said:
Ah! I cant have this!
For all it's faults, GT5 is at times a stunning game!
Get a handful of good racers in Caterhams, all aids off (including abs) on Comfort tyres. As much fun as doing it for real!
Plus the time transitions on some tracks look incredible.
Ill happily moan about its flaws, but I've put more time into that game than any other - and I'm a fully paid up nerd.
For every good thing about the game there's 20-30 terrible things.For all it's faults, GT5 is at times a stunning game!
Get a handful of good racers in Caterhams, all aids off (including abs) on Comfort tyres. As much fun as doing it for real!
Plus the time transitions on some tracks look incredible.
Ill happily moan about its flaws, but I've put more time into that game than any other - and I'm a fully paid up nerd.
On balance it's an awful game. It has bright spots, which you mention, but the rest just drags it down to mediocrity.
I bought GT5 on launch day and was bitterly disappointed, won't be doing that again if a sequel is made.
For me the only thing Forza 4 does better is sound and Custom paint jobs.
Standard cars in GTs are perhaps a shame but they dont bother me much as I dont take many Photos, watch many replays or drive in the Dash view. The only thing left to fix in my view is the shadows.
Online lobies in GT5 are much better for me.
GT5 physics feel much more realistic to me.
As for the single player aspects of the game I’m not bothered now. I do some of the seasonal GT5 races for cash but I never touch the Aspec section of the game and I don’t think I have since the seasonals were introduced. I just play on-line or do hot lapping and testing. GT5 cant be beaten here I think. Load times are no worse than I have seen in Forza 3 and 4. Some people must have dodgy PS3s or have not done the install.
Standard cars in GTs are perhaps a shame but they dont bother me much as I dont take many Photos, watch many replays or drive in the Dash view. The only thing left to fix in my view is the shadows.
Online lobies in GT5 are much better for me.
GT5 physics feel much more realistic to me.
As for the single player aspects of the game I’m not bothered now. I do some of the seasonal GT5 races for cash but I never touch the Aspec section of the game and I don’t think I have since the seasonals were introduced. I just play on-line or do hot lapping and testing. GT5 cant be beaten here I think. Load times are no worse than I have seen in Forza 3 and 4. Some people must have dodgy PS3s or have not done the install.
I was always a GT fan before Forza 2 was released and lets face it, Polyphony have had twenty years to develop and refine their game whereas Turn 10 have had less than half that. So, under the circumstances the Forza series is actually doing a lot better at catching up, they're still a little behind in terms of model detail and handling characteristics but that's to be expected as they're the hardest parts to get right. But, when it comes to freedom to do what you want to the cars in your garage then Forza is leagues ahead already with the (free!) paint editor and upgrades shop with massive in game discounts, I won't mention the sound. I'll always like the GT games as with any racing game but GT is lacking lately and the next one will have to be mind blowing to take anything away from Forza. That said though, I really don't like the way the Forza cars are pigeon holed into a class, if it was just power/weight/grip it'd be fine but having every car on the grid the same class or whatever takes some of the fun out of racing, in this respect GT5 is much better.
ETA, these games are also platform specific, so, the comparisons aren't entirely fair as both consoles can do things the other can't.
ETA, these games are also platform specific, so, the comparisons aren't entirely fair as both consoles can do things the other can't.
Edited by Big Fat Fatty on Tuesday 28th August 11:32
Fartgalen said:
For my summary:
Forza: Great noise. Nice paintwork/decal editing. Reasonable tracks. Dodgy handling.
GT: Dodgy noise. No editing. Good tracks. Spot on handling. Little better on-line.
Absolutely spot on. Forza: Great noise. Nice paintwork/decal editing. Reasonable tracks. Dodgy handling.
GT: Dodgy noise. No editing. Good tracks. Spot on handling. Little better on-line.
Tried forza, loved the cars and noise but just felt fake and arcadey. A combination of the two... Now that would be one hell of a game
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