Just seen 2 new focus st wagons...

[Otispunkmeyer]

Thought these weren't for sale yet? A black one and a red one. Definately ST's, centre exhaust, guppy fish mouth etc, look really smart in wagon form. There is the Henry ford college just on the bottom of ours campus so I'm guessing they're driven by ford guys and maybe pre-release/journo demo vehicles ?

[chibbard]

My mate (Ford employee) is running around in a black one with black alloys, red calipers and Recaro interior. It's very nice !!!!

[.R2D2]

They are out, have been for a few weeks

[Fastra]

Wagon?

[Chrisw666]

Fastra said:

Wagon?

Americanism.

Estate, or if we are being trendy touring.

[GTIR]

Fastra said:

Wagon?

It's Cockney.

Wagon = Wagon Wheel = Steal = Those sorts of cars ate always nicked.

True.

[em177]

GTIR said:

It's Cockney.

Wagon = Wagon Wheel = Steal = Those sorts of cars ate always nicked.

True.

[Steve vRS]

Impreza estate drivers always call their cars wagons.

Old Impreza estate owners will call them classic wagons

Steve

[LuS1fer]

Ah, you mean the Crimewatch special edition shooting brake - they brake just before they shoot.

[Curator]

Like this one you mean?

[Steve vRS]

Nice

[Otispunkmeyer]

Curator said:

Like this one you mean?

Looks good in white and black then! Red not so much....from a YouTube vid it even sounds ok, not quite the 5 pot warble of the old car, but a lot better than a 4 pot should sound. Gonna nip down to the ford college later maybe see of they are still hanging around to have a gawp at.

[Baryonyx]

Steve vRS said:

Impreza estate drivers always call their cars wagons.

Old Impreza estate owners will call them classic wagons

Steve

Thats from the Japanese naming convention though. We'd probably call the Impreza wagon the Impreza estate or Impreza hatch (because it has a hatched tailgate). But the Impreza hatch is what they call the saloon.

[scarble]

Baryonyx said:

Thats from the Japanese naming convention though. We'd probably call the Impreza wagon the Impreza estate or Impreza hatch (because it has a hatched tailgate). But the Impreza hatch is what they call the saloon.

Well wasn't the old Scoob estate officially called a "Sportwagon"? As for whether it's a saloon or hatch.. really this depends if the boot lid includes the rear window imho, although some argue it's whether the cabin and boot are a single space (whether it being separated by only seats or a solid bulkhead makes a difference I don't know). Anyway, Americanism or not I rather like the use of wagon, it's a very British sort of self-deprecating.

[cptsideways]

ST dealer launch, you might see a transporter load soon

[vx220]

In estate form you lose those hideous rear lights of the hatch, got to be a good thing!

[pilchardthecat]

Curator said:

Like this one you mean?

No, you are mistaken. That is a car.

This is a wagon

[Fastra]

pilchardthecat said:

No, you are mistaken. That is a car.

This is a wagon

[daydotz]

http://www.smc-cars.com/seat/used-cars/search/6383... love the wagon version

[philmots]

Do they do any sort of auto in these?