M3 with mileage discrepancy on National Mileage Register.
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Hi Guys,
I've been searching for an E46 M3 for a while now. Two weeks ago a 1 owner 2004 car with 63000 miles on came up, so I jumped on it, with it being listed within half an hour. The car took a week to have the wheels refurbed and as it is up in Bolton and I'm down in Essex they have agreed to drive it down to me. I've only paid a £200 deposit on my credit card, and if it is up to my standards I will have it.
So I HPI'd it with the AA check and everything was fine except,
'Data currently held on the National Mileage Register (NMR) indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.'
With the following discrepancy;
Date recorded Recorded by Mileage reading Total
16-Jun-2008 Manufacturer 31,400 31,400
17-Jul-2008 Manufacturer 9 9
12-Jan-2009 Manufacturer 9 9
15-Jun-2009 Manufacturer 40,300 40,300
17-Aug-2012 NMR 63,000 63,000
I rang the dealer up and asked him to provide me with the service history, dates, mileages, locations etc which he duly did and everything added up if you took out those very strange '9's' from the table. I then told him about this discrepancy and he put it down to a clerical error. Can anyone shed any light on this? and does anyone have any opinions on what steps I should take next?
It is a one owner car which leads me to ask the question why would he have it clocked 4 years before selling the car?
Thanks in advance,
Rich
I've been searching for an E46 M3 for a while now. Two weeks ago a 1 owner 2004 car with 63000 miles on came up, so I jumped on it, with it being listed within half an hour. The car took a week to have the wheels refurbed and as it is up in Bolton and I'm down in Essex they have agreed to drive it down to me. I've only paid a £200 deposit on my credit card, and if it is up to my standards I will have it.
So I HPI'd it with the AA check and everything was fine except,
'Data currently held on the National Mileage Register (NMR) indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.'
With the following discrepancy;
Date recorded Recorded by Mileage reading Total
16-Jun-2008 Manufacturer 31,400 31,400
17-Jul-2008 Manufacturer 9 9
12-Jan-2009 Manufacturer 9 9
15-Jun-2009 Manufacturer 40,300 40,300
17-Aug-2012 NMR 63,000 63,000
I rang the dealer up and asked him to provide me with the service history, dates, mileages, locations etc which he duly did and everything added up if you took out those very strange '9's' from the table. I then told him about this discrepancy and he put it down to a clerical error. Can anyone shed any light on this? and does anyone have any opinions on what steps I should take next?
It is a one owner car which leads me to ask the question why would he have it clocked 4 years before selling the car?
Thanks in advance,
Rich
Try checking the MOT history online and see what that brings up http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECHID-In...
The records are clearly wrong. No one clocks a car to 9 miles unless replacing the speedo and then no one does 40,000 miles in a M3 in 6 months.
The NMR (which sounds all official but is really just a commercial company) just collates data based on user input - it doesn't even record MOT mileages - and is a useful tool but by no means gospel.
If everything else stacks up the car is almost certainly fine.
The NMR (which sounds all official but is really just a commercial company) just collates data based on user input - it doesn't even record MOT mileages - and is a useful tool but by no means gospel.
If everything else stacks up the car is almost certainly fine.
I bought a Mondeo with 62000 miles on last month. When i checked the mileage with HPI it said...
61000 miles recorded on 23 Jun 2012
280000 miles recorded on 22 Apr 2007
When i checked the MOT from July 2007 the mileage was 28077 so some numpty has put an extra zero on by mistake. I checked all the MOT's on the link above that somebody posted and they all came back fine and correct. Ive had to scan my Mot Cert for 2007 to HPI mileage dept and they are going to correct it.
61000 miles recorded on 23 Jun 2012
280000 miles recorded on 22 Apr 2007
When i checked the MOT from July 2007 the mileage was 28077 so some numpty has put an extra zero on by mistake. I checked all the MOT's on the link above that somebody posted and they all came back fine and correct. Ive had to scan my Mot Cert for 2007 to HPI mileage dept and they are going to correct it.
NMR is a nightmare, and not worth anything to the buyer and just a PITA for the seller.
I've known cases where someone checking out a possible PX whilst running a HPI has rounded up the mileage from 39xxx to 40000, and three days later the car comes in and admin enter the exact mileage of 39xxx.
Now because the mileage has technically gone backwards chronologically by a few miles this "discrepancy" will stay on the HPI until someone spends an age on the phone and in writing sorting it out. Now most times its pretty obvious that nothing is wrong, but it enough to worry some customers away from a car.
MOT history check, along with service history is much more reliable, relevant, and supersedes anything the NMR will tell you.
In this case its a one owner car, so even over the internet its almost certainly 100% fine.
I've known cases where someone checking out a possible PX whilst running a HPI has rounded up the mileage from 39xxx to 40000, and three days later the car comes in and admin enter the exact mileage of 39xxx.
Now because the mileage has technically gone backwards chronologically by a few miles this "discrepancy" will stay on the HPI until someone spends an age on the phone and in writing sorting it out. Now most times its pretty obvious that nothing is wrong, but it enough to worry some customers away from a car.
MOT history check, along with service history is much more reliable, relevant, and supersedes anything the NMR will tell you.
In this case its a one owner car, so even over the internet its almost certainly 100% fine.
kentmotorcompany said:
NMR is a nightmare, and not worth anything to the buyer and just a PITA for the seller.
I've known cases where someone checking out a possible PX whilst running a HPI has rounded up the mileage from 39xxx to 40000, and three days later the car comes in and admin enter the exact mileage of 39xxx.
Now because the mileage has technically gone backwards chronologically by a few miles this "discrepancy" will stay on the HPI until someone spends an age on the phone and in writing sorting it out. Now most times its pretty obvious that nothing is wrong, but it enough to worry some customers away from a car.
MOT history check, along with service history is much more reliable, relevant, and supersedes anything the NMR will tell you.
In this case its a one owner car, so even over the internet its almost certainly 100% fine.
Coudn't have put it better myself I've known cases where someone checking out a possible PX whilst running a HPI has rounded up the mileage from 39xxx to 40000, and three days later the car comes in and admin enter the exact mileage of 39xxx.
Now because the mileage has technically gone backwards chronologically by a few miles this "discrepancy" will stay on the HPI until someone spends an age on the phone and in writing sorting it out. Now most times its pretty obvious that nothing is wrong, but it enough to worry some customers away from a car.
MOT history check, along with service history is much more reliable, relevant, and supersedes anything the NMR will tell you.
In this case its a one owner car, so even over the internet its almost certainly 100% fine.
ks. Your mileage may vary (see what I did there?)Looks like some lazy salesman just plonked 9 as the mileage. Could've been to spite the driver or just through sheer idleness.
Can be confirmed via MOT's (VOSA website) if your worried or walk away if it botheres you too much.
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Can be confirmed via MOT's (VOSA website) if your worried or walk away if it botheres you too much.
Awesome cars E46 M3's, the S54 engine is a masterpiece and all now for reasonable money.
Guys, Luckily the car is full BMW Service History. So I got in contact with the service department of the dealer that took care of the car , they talked my through all of its services and the MOTs the car has had done, everything stacks up.
I will do an MOT history check once i get hold of the V5. But i feel much more reassured right now.
Rich
I will do an MOT history check once i get hold of the V5. But i feel much more reassured right now.
Rich
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