Total retards with no brakes...
Total retards with no brakes...
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Hard-Drive

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4,291 posts

258 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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Almost flattened some idiot cyclist the other day with my Land Rover when he basically rolled out in front of me. As I turned to advise him gently that he may wish to be careful if he wanted to see his twenties, I was gob smacked to see that he had NO brakes on his bike at all.

This wasn't someone on a fixie with no front caliper...this was an old MTB, freewheeling, derailleur geared, with bare mounting posts where the V-brakes used to live. The guy was riding on the road, and dragging his foot along the floor to stop.

My initial thoughts were how could he be so selfish as to almost certainly get wiped out in the imminent future, yet not give a stuff about how the unlucky person who might be driving will get to sleep at night. This was quickly replaced by feeling of Darwinism, and that if he's that bloody dumb then perhaps his almost certain imminent demise might actually benefit the human race as a whole.

More and more I see kids out on MTBs with V brake noodles not connected...why do parents let young kids out on death trap bikes, and why on earth do people ride with no brakes?

Retards. Rant over.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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Hard-Drive said:
More and more I see kids out on MTBs with V brake noodles not connected...why do parents let young kids out on death trap bikes, and why on earth do people ride with no brakes?
2/10. Not enough fks.

I like to blame this on hipsters.


WeirdNeville

6,049 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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1) nicked wheel on the bike: Brakes/wheels no longer fit. Disconnect noodle. Sorted.
2) It's an offence under construction and use. A bike must have 2 independant braking systems, and a fixed rear wheel counts as one thus even a fixie must have a front brake of some kind to be 'road legal' in the UK.

On one memorable occasion a bike I seized off of a suspect had the V-brake blocks turned through 90 degs so that they acted on the side of the tyre! It was an MTB with 700c wheels on it.

julianm

1,732 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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Most kids around here have removed the brakes from their BMX bikes so they are like the guys in the Olympic events and are FASTER.
`Braking` is achieved by rubbing the rear wheel with the sole of their trainer. Some are worn through to the socks ..
I did try & offer some advice about this to a couple of them but `Dad says it`s OK` - I give up.

WeirdNeville

6,049 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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They're not bicycles are they.
A bicycle must have a braking system of some sort acting on each wheel.
A unicycle brakes in exactly the same way as a fixie: You resist the pedals turning (and alter your balance accordingly I suppose).

Edited by WeirdNeville on Sunday 2nd September 20:28

daz3210

5,000 posts

269 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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I thought the two brakes was only on wheels over a certain size

WeirdNeville

6,049 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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But the law relates to bicycles. It even defines them.

It's like me saying 'A ship needs certain lighting' and then you saying 'so why don't planes have the same lighting?'.

They're not ships are they?!

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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I know people who did similar as a student...

No mechanical competence at all, and naturally too broke to pay a mechanic. So when the brakes develop a problem (rubbing on a bent wheel, cables seized), off the noodle goes. I believe the motto was 'Intelligent, not practical'.

Smitters

4,415 posts

186 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Darwin will take care of them...

chrisga

2,128 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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You sure it wasnt any of these guys Iain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GQ5DfdY218&fea...

Caesar9

118 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Alot of bmxers and dirt jumpers have no brakes or just the one to help them with spins etc mid air. I don't think I've ever seen someone on the road without them apart from the local scrote/smackhead on a nicked bike.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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Much less for their poor spelling.

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

193 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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WeirdNeville said:
But the law relates to bicycles. It even defines them.

It's like me saying 'A ship needs certain lighting' and then you saying 'so why don't planes have the same lighting?'.

They're not ships are they?!
I believe the law now includes unicyles, at least since 1994.

daz3210

5,000 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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GadgeS3C said:
WeirdNeville said:
But the law relates to bicycles. It even defines them.

It's like me saying 'A ship needs certain lighting' and then you saying 'so why don't planes have the same lighting?'.

They're not ships are they?!
I believe the law now includes unicyles, at least since 1994.
How can you have two brakes on a vehicle with one wheel?


GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

193 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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daz3210 said:
How can you have two brakes on a vehicle with one wheel?
Actually - you can. Most unicycles are fixed wheel , which counts as one braking system. A hydrualic brake would then give you two braking systems for one wheel.

Easy!

Accelebrate

5,676 posts

244 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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To be honest a lot of the bikes I see on the roads here might as well have no brakes fitted as it would appear the blocks go nowhere near the rims when applied.

If that's the law then there are also a fair few dutch style bikes on the roads with only the pedal back to brake, brake (whatever they're called) that don't conform.

This kind of thing...


WeirdNeville

6,049 posts

244 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Dizee>What's your angle?
State it and I can adress it concisely.
Otherwise, google 'Hmso' and 'Construction and use of pedal cycles 1983' and find your questions answereds.

con&use does NOT only apply to MPV's!

yellowjack

18,440 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Accelebrate said:
there are also a fair few dutch style bikes on the roads with only the pedal back to brake, brake (whatever they're called) that don't conform.

This kind of thing...

The brake you describe is a 'Coaster Brake'. If it functions as designed, then, for legal purposes, it will be regarded as an 'efficient' means of braking the back wheel. In order to comply with UK law, such a bike would need to have an independently operated braking system for the front wheel.

TheInternet

5,230 posts

192 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Total retards with no brakes are difficult to execute satisfactorily.