Taking the p or what?
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Zed 44

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1,290 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Read this and give me your thoughts please.

A friend lives in a seaside cottage with an unmade road bordering one side of his property signposted as a "bridlepath". It is a road which the council does not maintain but has on a previous occasion filled in some potholes with hardcore. The road is used by people for access to the beach and for other residents to their houses.

One afternoon my friend had a knock at the door by the owner of a Range Rover who claimed that his car had been damaged by an unmaintained hedge on my friend's property and he wanted £600 compensation.

Subsequently, we measured the road and found it to be a good two feet wider than a Range Rover and the hedge was relatively soft so that in order to scratch his car, we believe he would have to have been doing some serious off-roading.

My friend has now received a demand for £750 or an invitation to go to court. Besides telling the guy to fcensoredoff, what are the realistic options?



Robb F

4,614 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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What was wrong with option one?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Option one. Take photographs of the offending bit, with something to add scale. Utter bilge.

4key

12,071 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Erm, telling the guy to fk off is the realistic option. On what planet would the bloke get a pay out, there are some very strange people out there.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Go to court. It's spurious so you'll get costs.

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Go to the local council office and ask to look at the latest rights of way map. If it's classed as a bridleway, then the guy hasn't got a leg to stand on, as he shouldn't have been driving on it anyway.

Zed 44

Original Poster:

1,290 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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vrsmxtb said:
Go to the local council office and ask to look at the latest rights of way map. If it's classed as a bridleway, then the guy hasn't got a leg to stand on, as he shouldn't have been driving on it anyway.
He has and he doesn't readit

tercelgold

969 posts

186 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Bridleways can be ways of access too, one near me is 6ft wide, has a national speed limit sign just before it begins and is not the councils problem as it's only used to gain access as a right of way but is still a bridleway

As to the RR, he's trying it on but law in the UK works on money so depends what's cheapest.

Edited by tercelgold on Tuesday 4th September 19:48

Meoricin

2,880 posts

198 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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CampDavid said:
Go to court. It's spurious so you'll get costs.
Is breaking even while wasting your time really worth it?

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

214 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Meoricin said:
Is breaking even while wasting your time really worth it?
It is, to show knuckle draggers like the RR owner that sometimes they have to take responsibility for their mistakes and not blame other people all the time.

Meoricin

2,880 posts

198 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Chicane-UK said:
It is, to show knuckle draggers like the RR owner that sometimes they have to take responsibility for their mistakes and not blame other people all the time.
Odds are, they'll only switch the blame to the 'unjust court system'/'biased judges'/'bribery'/'insert ridiculous way of avoiding responsibility here'.

They're not going to turn around and accept the result.

Raize

1,476 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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He won't ACTUALLY take you to court you know. It's just a threat.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

211 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Ignore until a court summons comes through.

And when it comes through, he won't have to worry about it, mankind will be under attack from flying pigs.

blearyeyedboy

6,809 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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"We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram". (link not safe for work)

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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There is another problem with angry, self righteous fktards such as this. A late night brick through your window - or worse - if you don't play the game his way. He's obviously stupid enough to knock on the door in the first place so it's anybody's guess what else he's capable of.

Sorry boxedin

blearyeyedboy

6,809 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Jaguar steve said:
There is another problem with angry, self righteous fktards such as this. A late night brick through your window - or worse - if you don't play the game his way. He's obviously stupid enough to knock on the door in the first place so it's anybody's guess what else he's capable of.

Sorry boxedin
I see where you're coming from, Jaguar Steve. However, what's to stop him doing the same a month later? Or on a weekly basis? To pay money under threat is blackmail. Anyway, if he hasn't implied any such threat yet, the chances of him doing so are very small. If he escalates things by using threats, it becomes a police matter.

I know it's easy to be a "keyboard warrior", but you can't simply hand over large amounts of cash to strangers because they're being a dick. If you do, they'll keep doing it. Sometimes, you have to stand up to people.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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blearyeyedboy said:
Jaguar steve said:
There is another problem with angry, self righteous fktards such as this. A late night brick through your window - or worse - if you don't play the game his way. He's obviously stupid enough to knock on the door in the first place so it's anybody's guess what else he's capable of.

Sorry boxedin
I see where you're coming from, Jaguar Steve. However, what's to stop him doing the same a month later? Or on a weekly basis? To pay money under threat is blackmail. Anyway, if he hasn't implied any such threat yet, the chances of him doing so are very small. If he escalates things by using threats, it becomes a police matter.

I know it's easy to be a "keyboard warrior", but you can't simply hand over large amounts of cash to strangers because they're being a dick. If you do, they'll keep doing it. Sometimes, you have to stand up to people.
Not suggesting for one moment you do hand over cash or admit any liability, and certainly not trying to be to be a keyboard warrior either, but none of the replies previous to mine raised the possibility of this happening.

Although I've never managed to prove anything I suspect that an outbreak of targeted petty vandalism to my car that happened to me in the past was over a buisness dispute and know from experience it's almost impossible to find sufficent proof of whom is responsible for the police to take any action or to prevent it happening again.

At least you have the aggrieved persons details, and more importantly he'll know you do, so if anything does kick off - which I certainly hope it doesn't - you can pass the whole matter over to the police.

blearyeyedboy

6,809 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Jaguar Steve- agreed. Stick to your guns, but be prepared for a bit of trouble.

(BTW, I didn't mean to imply that you're a keyboard warrior so I'm sorry if it looked that way. What I meant to express was that I hope I'm not coming across as one either.)