£3k weekend car, something "PH" - 944, 500SL, M3 or......
£3k weekend car, something "PH" - 944, 500SL, M3 or......
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Rollcage

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11,345 posts

219 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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In the winter (when prices are depressed!) I want to put around £3k into something "special" that I can keep in the garage and polish, and use on high days and holidays. As it wont get used much, running costs are not too much of a concern.

I want it to be something that will give some form of driving pleasure, be it in terms of sportiness, or waftability, and it must be a "PH" type of car - something that you always want to give that last backwards glance to, and that you look forward to driving.

So far my candidates are a Porsche 944 S2, R129 Mercedes 500SL and and E36 M3, all of which should be within target price.

I guess an important factor would also be resale - I don't want anything that will depreciate faster than a falling stone. I would imagine decent condition examples of all the above are fairly safe, especially the Merc, which may possibly begin to appreciate soon? I don't really know the market for them terribly well.

Of the three above, I probably prefer the Merc, as its a V8, and a decent one can still look terrific today. The BM I would probably end up driving every day, which would defeat the point!

Any thoughts on the above choices, and any other cars to consider?

Xtriple129

1,173 posts

184 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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You'll be very lucky to get an SL 500 R129 for £3K - going rate is about double that for anything tidy with hardtop, and a lot more for a low mileage example.

mustard tab

293 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
there you go, come winter they will be a little cheaper, not sure that they will start to appreciate anytime soon, as you will always have the previous SL to contend with, but still a decent weekend wafter

Rollcage

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Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Xtriple129 said:
You'll be very lucky to get an SL 500 R129 for £3K - going rate is about double that for anything tidy with hardtop, and a lot more for a low mileage example.
Maybe not an SL500, but there are several 500SLs on eBay for £3k. Buyer beware and all that, but they are out there!

I saw a couple at a Classic Auction in Poole a few months ago - very little interest in them at all.

Rollcage

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Tuesday 4th September 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
I think they're all cracking cars, the SL would get my vote, not the most dynamic drive but the possibility of a roof down V8 waft swings it smile
Thats about the sum of it for me too! hehe

difontaine42

273 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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My dad has a 1990 SL500 that I drive around every so often and it's lovely. I'm always surprised how nice it is. With the roof down it's brilliant and it quicker than the V6 TT I used to have.

Not sporty but very good for 'wafting' around in. Sounds nice too but it does drink fuel.

He got his for around the £4k mark, one owner from new and just over 100k miles. I think it's a bargain!

DKL

4,930 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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It depends on your driving style and what makes you want to drive. 944 S2 have never been cheaper and are a great car to drive dynamically. I imagine better than the M3 but the M3 would ultimately be quicker. More space in the M3 if you need room for rear passengers. SL500 is rather different. I assume they are all autos and has the soft top option but its a 2 seater.

Do you enjoy hoons round the lanes with some longer trips for the weekend or wafting effortlessly along the seafront/A road etc

Rollcage

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219 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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DKL said:
It depends on your driving style and what makes you want to drive. 944 S2 have never been cheaper and are a great car to drive dynamically. I imagine better than the M3 but the M3 would ultimately be quicker. More space in the M3 if you need room for rear passengers. SL500 is rather different. I assume they are all autos and has the soft top option but its a 2 seater.

Do you enjoy hoons round the lanes with some longer trips for the weekend or wafting effortlessly along the seafront/A road etc
I'd get a kick out of both, but I just want something that each trip in will be an event!

The M3 is maybe a bit too everyday for those needs I think - Maybe!

I'm edging toward the R129 myself, put I cant remember much about the only time I've driven one - an SL500 Mille Miglia, back when they were new!

PUA

1,060 posts

186 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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I love 944's but wager you may end up spending quite a bit on maintenance, whereas the e36 M3 is generally bulletproof

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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I think the other thing to consider is insurance I'm afraid, as it can make a big difference to how affordable your second car is (believe me, I know...). I'd imagine the SL and 944 are pennies to insure on a classic policy if you are of an age to know what they are, the M3 probably less so. Get some quotes, but it wouldn't surprise me if the M3 doesn't cost twice as much to insure as the other two.

Rollcage

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Tuesday 4th September 2012
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VxDuncan said:
I think the other thing to consider is insurance I'm afraid, as it can make a big difference to how affordable your second car is (believe me, I know...). I'd imagine the SL and 944 are pennies to insure on a classic policy if you are of an age to know what they are, the M3 probably less so. Get some quotes, but it wouldn't surprise me if the M3 doesn't cost twice as much to insure as the other two.
A good point, to be fair. Id imagine a Classic policy will be the answer there, as you say. Im not sure if my current insurers woukd cover an M3, i'd have to find out.

Rollcage

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219 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Can anybody with any experience tell me if the four speed auto is as bad as one particular owners site says it is? The advice being to get a 96 on car with the 5 speed ? (Same site reckons the real sweet spot for these was 96-98 - 5 speed auto and the more powerful quad cam v8)

Rickyy

6,618 posts

246 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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You've pretty much posted the thread I was going to! Although I'm having to wait until my 25th in June frown

E36 M3 was on my list, hadn't realised SLs were that sort of money! Ideally want a manual though, guessing they are rare?

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Rollcage said:
Can anybody with any experience tell me if the four speed auto is as bad as one particular owners site says it is?
It's one of the nicest slush boxes ever made, also bullet proof.

Rollcage

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Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Rickyy said:
You've pretty much posted the thread I was going to! Although I'm having to wait until my 25th in June frown

E36 M3 was on my list, hadn't realised SLs were that sort of money! Ideally want a manual though, guessing they are rare?
Very! wink

deltashad

6,731 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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For pleasure, I'd go soft top SL, since Dallas is back on telly the residuals are bound to go back up.

For classic status and all round coolness I'd go for the 944.

For fun I'd go for the chavtastic E36, empty the interior (wing seats are worth a few quid), perspex windows, generally ditch anything which weighs it down and become a track/road warrior. Wrap it in burberry.


rallycross

13,731 posts

264 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Limited budget £3k for these cars

You'd have more driving fun out of a £3k MR2 roadster eg 2003

Rollcage

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219 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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I know its bottom of the market, but that almost makes it more fun!

If I want a thrash type car, i'll probably get a cheap Puma again and put better brakes on it and make it handle really well. Great fun.

Tib

458 posts

206 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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MR2 Turbo for that money... Out of your choices the E36 is a lot of car for the money. Steer clear of the Pork. They haven't aged well IMO.

Baryonyx

18,266 posts

186 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Tib said:
MR2 Turbo for that money... Out of your choices the E36 is a lot of car for the money. Steer clear of the Pork. They haven't aged well IMO.
Very nice cars. I've had one and it was great!

Of the three there I'd go for the 500SL. I was spending a lot of time looking at R129 SL's earlier this year before I went for an Audi A8 4.2 Quattro.