Scam?
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Lasitha

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177 posts

221 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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I know if it sounds and smells like a scam it usually is..but here goes:

I'm selling my Alcon rear discs and had this guy email me saying he wants to buy them. We do a bit of haggling and we agree a price. He then says he will pay me for both the discs and delivery to him.

I ask where he is and he's in London apparently. I am also in London, so i don't see why he can't come and collect them. He sends me a mail today saying the cheque is in the post for the price we agreed and also £1175 for the courier to deliver them to him which is more than the price of a brand new set of discs!!

Must be a scam surely?

elliot_holder

200 posts

219 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Sounds a little dodgy, but guess you can just wait for the cheque to arrive, pay it in and let it clear.

Don't send anything before cheque clears.


gowmonster

2,471 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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if it walks like a duck,and sounds like a duck.....


james280779

1,931 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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It will be a forged or stolen cheque. It will initially clear, you'll pay for the stuff to be delivered and later find the bank taking the money back from your account. you will be liable as you cashed a stolen cheque so out of pocket and no brake discs.


james280779

1,931 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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elliot_holder said:
Sounds a little dodgy, but guess you can just wait for the cheque to arrive, pay it in and let it clear.

Don't send anything before cheque clears.
Cheque can be recalled up to six months after funds clearing.

Harpo

482 posts

212 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Scam.
Stop calling me Shirley.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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james280779 said:
It will be a forged or stolen cheque. It will initially clear, you'll pay for the stuff to be delivered and later find the bank taking the money back from your account. you will be liable as you cashed a stolen cheque so out of pocket and no brake discs.
This

Porkupine

1,722 posts

195 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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You sure he didn't mean £11.75 for the courier?

GJB

472 posts

288 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Sure you'll be fine.

There are some very generous people out there.

Only yesterday I got an e-mail from Chief Akandi in Nigeria telling me I'd won £15,000,000 in the local lottery. Amazing stuff because I didn't even remember entering. Just sent my cheque off for £300.00 to cover the admin. Should be a multi-millyunaire this time next week Rodney.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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james280779 said:
elliot_holder said:
Sounds a little dodgy, but guess you can just wait for the cheque to arrive, pay it in and let it clear.

Don't send anything before cheque clears.
Cheque can be recalled up to six months after funds clearing.
It's been 6 days for about 5 years now.

thegoose

8,077 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Deva Link said:
james280779 said:
elliot_holder said:
Sounds a little dodgy, but guess you can just wait for the cheque to arrive, pay it in and let it clear.

Don't send anything before cheque clears.
Cheque can be recalled up to six months after funds clearing.
It's been 6 days for about 5 years now.
I think it's 3 or 4 to draw on it but 10 for full clearance (i.e. can't be recalled) - finance companies won't confirm full clearance on vehicle settlements paid by cheque for 10 working days for this reason, but after that it's fine (and we're talking much bigger sums that lenders wouldn't take the risk on).

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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thegoose said:
I think it's 3 or 4 to draw on it but 10 for full clearance (i.e. can't be recalled) - finance companies won't confirm full clearance on vehicle settlements paid by cheque for 10 working days for this reason, but after that it's fine (and we're talking much bigger sums that lenders wouldn't take the risk on).
The timescales are known as 2-4-6. It's 6 days to certainty - as long as you weren't party to a fraud.

http://www.chequeandcredit.co.uk/cheque_and_credit...

burwoodman

18,718 posts

276 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Deva Link said:
It's been 6 days for about 5 years now.
When fraud is involved it is 6 months. Normally picked up in 2 weeks max but they can have recourse for 6 months! OP is best to ignore the buyer or email saying he will not accept a cheque (bank TT only) and will not refund anything to a shipping company. 100% scam for sure

Slippydiff

16,432 posts

253 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Lasitha said:
I know if it sounds and smells like a scam it usually is..but here goes:

I'm selling my Alcon rear discs and had this guy email me saying he wants to buy them. We do a bit of haggling and we agree a price. He then says he will pay me for both the discs and delivery to him.

I ask where he is and he's in London apparently. I am also in London, so i don't see why he can't come and collect them. He sends me a mail today saying the cheque is in the post for the price we agreed and also £1175 for the courier to deliver them to him which is more than the price of a brand new set of discs!!

Must be a scam surely?
The same muppet tried to buy the KWs I have in the PH classifieds on Sunday/Monday.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Lasitha said:
also £1175 for the courier ...
Must be a scam surely?
Yes.

Sandy59

2,733 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Could you offer to deliver for a fee and collect cash ??

jackal

11,251 posts

312 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Call him back and tell him there's a pigeon in his bank account biggrin

burwoodman

18,718 posts

276 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Sandy59 said:
Could you offer to deliver for a fee and collect cash ??
You would waste your time negotiating with a fraudster? Sure, come over in your porsche and we'll bang you on the head and steal that and whatever you're wearing. Someone will be along soon to suggest a sting operation where you take a few heavy set mates with you. The minute you email to change the terms you won't ever hear from this scammer again and best you do email them to avoid them hassling you over the chq they sent.

GuitarPlayer63

199 posts

179 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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SCAM SCAM SCAM
IIRC there was an item on the radio a long time ago saying cheques never truly clear and the funds can be taken back at any point. I had a cheque clear (for over £1500) to then have it "un-clear" some weeks later...

I'd be asking for cash or maybe something like Praypal....

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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GuitarPlayer63 said:
maybe something like Praypal....
That's even worse than the original scam, as you don't even need a stolen chequebook to pull it off.