5 useable seats - family car, decent to drive
5 useable seats - family car, decent to drive
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Legend83

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10,553 posts

249 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Having been searching for a 7 seater for the past 6 months, over the weekend the OH relaxed the criteria and suggested that a 5 seater would be sufficient if you could fit two large-ish forward facing car seats in the back, but then also be able to use the middle seat as an adult in relative comfort.

Now are Civic is a squeeze and my size 8 wife can barely fit her bum betwee the seats so it seems any hatchback is out of the question.

Anyone with any experience of fitting two kids in the back of these:

- Volvo V70
- Mercedes E Class estate (W211 shape)
- Honda CRV
- Toyota RAV 4
- Lexus RX

and able to tell me whether they would meet this criteria?

Cheers

L83

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

225 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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5 series

ajb85

1,124 posts

169 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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I'd give the soft-roaders a wide birth altogether and go for a good old fashioned sizeable saloon car. Make it a 5 series and you'll also enjoy driving it.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

232 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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I'm confused - two largish forward facing seats in the back? Do you mean the boot? Is this some kind of aftermarket thing?

Anyhoo, would also say 5 series.

Hugo a Gogo

23,436 posts

260 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Volvo and Merc are wide, Mondeo too

CRV, RAV and Lexus I doubt it

getting in and out of that middle seat will be the problem

davepoth

29,395 posts

226 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Another vote for the 5 series. If you get along with the styling, it's a great choice.

Legend83

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249 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Looks a little snug to me. I like the 5 series suggestion but are we talking from experience here of having fitted two of these bds in there and then having enough room to park an adult in the middle?


pjdow

1,116 posts

181 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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FFRR

Legend83

Original Poster:

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249 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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hornetrider said:
I'm confused - two largish forward facing seats in the back? Do you mean the boot? Is this some kind of aftermarket thing?

Anyhoo, would also say 5 series.
No I mean the two rear passenger seats will be taken by forward facing child seats. That leaves the middle seat in the rear free but I need it to be big enough to fit an adult. Basically at the moment, the Civic rear middle seat is useless.

Re getting in and out - the car seats are Isofix and come out in a click. Not ideal but reasonably easy.

Legend83

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249 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Oh, and budget is up to £10k but ideally less.

PhilTDi

24 posts

166 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Have you considered a Honda FRV so you can put the extra adult in the front wink

I have had several V70s and while spacious the middle seat can be cramped with 3 adults in the back, and the tunnel is quite intrusive. My money would be on the Merc

hornetrider

63,161 posts

232 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Ohhhh I see.

Depth wise the 5 series isn't that great tbh. Our Pebble on an Isofix base just about fits but touches the back of the front passenger seat. Not sure on width at all, but I suspect it's similar to other cars in its class.

Thought about a multipla?

mr_spock

3,372 posts

242 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Citroen C4 Grand Picasso. The diesel is better (we've had both petrol and diesel). Surprisingly pleasant to drive, 5 good seats and the rear extra 2 seats are OK for teenagers, even adults on short journeys - legroom is a bit limited. The front seats are superb, and it's a great motorway cruiser or city commuter.


surveyor

18,672 posts

211 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Female logic. She's agreed to compromise on something that you can't realistically achieve, given the size of modern baby seats.

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

183 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Subaru Legacy. 5 proper seats in the back. I have a 1 and 3 year old in car seats in the back and an 11 year old who sits in the middle. His only complaint is when the two younger ones start crying at the same time. Get the 3.0 litre one.

rob.e

2,863 posts

305 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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I have an octavia wagon - big boot and I have two kiddie seats in the back BUT you'll struggle in any "normal" sized car to fit a real-sized adult between the kids.

You need something wide - Honda FR-V maybe?

BananaBok

116 posts

174 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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The thing is a lot of 4x4 and estates use the same platform as their smaller siblings, so all you are gaining is additional boot space/height as opposed to any width or wider seats.

Im in the same situation with cars, 3 young kids, so we ended up going the MPV route. I would prefer an estate, but for example Im pretty sure an A4 estate is the same width as an A4 Avante (we certainly couldnt fit three across the back once two cars seats were in).

Even things like the CRV most likely use the Accord/Civic platform, so there's as much chance of fitting 3 across the back in that as there is a Civic, and given the middle seat is essentially a occassional use type one I expect your missus wouldnt want to be squeezed into it for any length of time.

You would need to look at the larger 4x4's, or accept that an MPV is probably most suitable for now, there are a few with 3 good sized individual rear seats, like the Renault Scenic, Honda FRV, or Citroen Picasso, then when the kids are older and can use booster seats, buy a nice estate.

Only other approach would be to suggest to the missus that she lose some weight, then once you're single you can buy something really fun like a Lotus Elise.

Legend83

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10,553 posts

249 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Oh, and the other requirement.

No MPVs.

wobble

Bill

58,190 posts

282 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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The best thing to do IMO is take the seats to a big car supermarket and try all their stock. Getting an adult past the child seat is a huge PITA so leg room is as important as width IMO.

We have a 53 plate Mazda 6 estate as SWMBO's hack and it's surprisingly spacious in the back and pretty good to drive, so add that to the list of potentials. I believe it's the same platform as the Mondeo. Also we recently had a Hyundai i40 estate as a hire car and that was huge in the back and not half as st as you'd expect hehe

On the 7 seater front, have you tried an SMax? We had one and once I'd got over the MPVness I found it extremely competent.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

205 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Is the adult a limbo dancer? If not, it may be a struggle to get an adult into the middle in a saloon/estate given the low roofline and bulk of the seat, unless you're going to remove and re-fit the seat each time.

There is a reason so many people drive mpvs you know - they work for families.