Pre- or Post-Facelift Focus ST?
Pre- or Post-Facelift Focus ST?
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Octoposse

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2,385 posts

211 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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I've looked at several ST-2 and ST-3s, asking prices betweeen £6 and £11k.

Any pros and cons to pre-Facelift over post? (Apart from price!). But I do like the push button start!


Justin S

3,658 posts

287 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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st2 = 5 seats ST3 = 4 seats
ST3 better spec,more to go wrong?
ST2 less gadgets
New shape or old shape? Choice is yours. New more expensive than the earlier shape.

davey68

1,199 posts

263 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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late 2007 pre facelift cars can be found with slighlty improved spec. I had an august 2007 pre lift ST3, it had the upgraded sony (orange lit) dials and head unit, and apparently larger intercooler. Facelifts always seemed to be a fair bit more expensive than pre. I thought the facelift exterior softened the aggression and also the interior had lots of fake carbon...

ben_h100

1,549 posts

205 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Late 07 pre-facelift ST-3 comes withi xenon and 'smoked' headlights. As above you also get a better stereo and dials.

If you can, go for the facelift ST-3. Keyless entry, push button start etc. They are great cars, very reliable. I've had two (one pre, one post facelift ST-3) and all that went 'wrong' was the elements in the heated windscreen failing. This is fairly common across the Focus range though.

I'd avoid a pre 07 if you can.

HedgehogFromHell

2,072 posts

205 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Pretty sure Pre-Facelift cars had weaker cylinder liners and that Ford uprated the ones in the facelift cars.

KingNothing

3,319 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Last run had alot of the options included as standard on the ST-3 at least (auto wipers, lights, climate control, 5door electric windows etc.) but if you're looking at £11k top it won't be a last run car.

Main difference is exterior looks, slight differences interior wise; can have push start, keyless entry, carbon fibre effect surrounds, bigger storage in armrest, different dials. Some pre-facelifts had keyless entry but these are pretty rare tbh.

Outside, every panel is different bar the roof, includes a diffuser on the back.

Engine wise there's still alot of debate going on, older engines have popped, standard and chasing bigger power, newer ones have went in similar circumstances, but newer engines should be more reliable. If it's newer then it should have a revised oil filter diaphragm housing on it, so that shouldn't be a problem, but if you get an older car which hasn't had it done, put aside at least £150 to fix that yourself, or more if you pay a garage. Older cars means unless they've already been changed, the front wishbone bushes will be shot, mine were dead and contained no oil in them whatsoever when it came to swap them for polybushes earlier this year. Everything else should be fine, alternator might be a problem at some point, mine is still alright after 5 years.

tkoh12

19 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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The pre face lift have stronger clutches than the facelift too!

mrsimmers

189 posts

192 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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I have a late 57 plate pre-facelift ST2 which has every option except sat-nav. Even has an electric sunfoof.

okie592

2,711 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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facelift After 08 plate. around that age theres a few engine issues blowing turbos far to quickly was sorted by 09 though.

facelift st3 is the way to go, im just trying to find myself one in red with sat nav and mountune.they dont seem to exist though!

simo2k2000

78 posts

166 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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tkoh12 said:
The pre face lift have stronger clutches than the facelift too!
I had an 07 pre-facelift ST3 and the clutch slipped with a remap. It seems that the earlier cars (55/06) had stronger clutches although they are the same part number.

If I was to get another one which I was going to modify I would get a facelift as they use the same block as the RS and are far less likely to crack cylinder liners.

Watch out for the engine whistling on tickover as this may indicate a failed oil filter diaphragm housing. Mine never went but my friend's did but it only costs around £120 and they replace it with the newer upgraded item.

Overall they are a nice car and quick once modded (mine was 289bhp before I upgraded from Dreamscience DSCi map to Mod C). They are very thirsty for their power output though compared to equivalent cars but they make a much better noise than the usual 4 cylinder turbo models used by competitors.

Had mine for 3 years from new and would recommend one to anyone

Chris