993 what upgrades are recommended?
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New to this forum, Recently purchased a LHD 993 which is completely standard. I am now considering a number of upgrades/renovations to improve my car. Most importantly I want to improve the car and not go all Max power on it!
I am considering the following. I would be grateful for any recommendations/observations. It would be much too expensive to get all this done, at least in one go!
1. Alloy gear lever/Handbrake
2. RSR muffler
3. Clear light kit
4. Targa wheels or just wheel refurbish
5. Drivers seat refurbish
6. Zymol
Many thanks,
I am considering the following. I would be grateful for any recommendations/observations. It would be much too expensive to get all this done, at least in one go!
1. Alloy gear lever/Handbrake
2. RSR muffler
3. Clear light kit
4. Targa wheels or just wheel refurbish
5. Drivers seat refurbish
6. Zymol
Many thanks,
Make sure it's basically sound first.
Fresh engine oil.
New oil filters.
Change the gearbox oil.
Shocks OK?
Tracking.
Change brake fluid.
The rest depends on your budget and personal priorities.
From your list, I would go for RSRs as they are well recommended for the noise they make.
Then Zymol and then refurbish the driver's seat if it's bad enough for you to list it as an item.
Bigger expenses I would recommend are a sports suspension kit (Bilsteins matched with lowering springs) - do this before paying for tracking to be done as tracking will need to be done again.
Then, a new clutch and lightweight flywheel to improve engine response.
>> Edited by james_j on Friday 20th August 11:14
Fresh engine oil.
New oil filters.
Change the gearbox oil.
Shocks OK?
Tracking.
Change brake fluid.
The rest depends on your budget and personal priorities.
From your list, I would go for RSRs as they are well recommended for the noise they make.
Then Zymol and then refurbish the driver's seat if it's bad enough for you to list it as an item.
Bigger expenses I would recommend are a sports suspension kit (Bilsteins matched with lowering springs) - do this before paying for tracking to be done as tracking will need to be done again.
Then, a new clutch and lightweight flywheel to improve engine response.
>> Edited by james_j on Friday 20th August 11:14
Don't forget sparkplugs,,,a decent set can make a fair bit of difference to how the car performs...12 of them and with labour it is approx a £300 job....often neglected.
Suspension upgrade to Pss9 or equivalent will transform the car and not harm resale.
>> Edited by clubsport on Friday 20th August 11:30
Suspension upgrade to Pss9 or equivalent will transform the car and not harm resale.
>> Edited by clubsport on Friday 20th August 11:30
My own chariot has had a few bits done of late
RSR’s I did these on the exchange basis with these people www.carnewal-europe.com/main.htm cost about £250 and are well worth it as the noise is fantastic
Motor sound pack – I actually got one of these of E-Bay for about £70 and although no real power advantage there seems to be a minor improvement to throttle response. There are normally a few listed and if not there should be one along soon
Supercharger – Once again E-Bay have one listed with £4k next to it. Haven’t done this one so can’t vouch for it.
Air filter – K&N about £50 and money well spent. Again E-Bay is listing them at present.
Hope you enjoy it, however hard I try to change her I simply can’t be separated from her, an all time great of a car.
RSR’s I did these on the exchange basis with these people www.carnewal-europe.com/main.htm cost about £250 and are well worth it as the noise is fantastic
Motor sound pack – I actually got one of these of E-Bay for about £70 and although no real power advantage there seems to be a minor improvement to throttle response. There are normally a few listed and if not there should be one along soon
Supercharger – Once again E-Bay have one listed with £4k next to it. Haven’t done this one so can’t vouch for it.
Air filter – K&N about £50 and money well spent. Again E-Bay is listing them at present.
Hope you enjoy it, however hard I try to change her I simply can’t be separated from her, an all time great of a car.
I couldn't afford to do all the mods in one go either, so I did them in stages.
Cosmetic:
alu gear lever,
3-spokes steering wheel,
clear indicators and side repeaters,
alu pedals,
Armourfend to protect from stone chips (pretty unnoticeable if the colour of the car's not dark)
Sound:
RSR mufflers (best value for money)
Drill air box (free, makes a lot of roar esp with WOT)
Handling:
Roocks suspension upgrade, then Alignment check/adj,(transformed the car)
new tyres!!( Pirrelli P-zero I prefer, but the car's rather sensitive to tyres / suspension set up)
Still considering:
Big red (when discs need changing next)
LWF/RS clutch (to be done when clutch needs replacing.)
HID conversion (not the proper one that costs £££)
Monoball and strut brace next yr as the rubber mount's split and need changing anyway.
Using Zymol when my tenis elbow isn't hurting too badly. Otherwise Smerr mixed in with shampoo.
Finally, track-days, about 3-4 per yr, I started going last yr, best and safest way to drive the car fast and on the limit, and I find myself driving a lot slower on the road as a result (other than occ blast), just don't feel the need to antmore.
Only did all the mods 'cos I plan to keep the car pretty much forever. Don't expect to get any money back when you sell. Happy upgrading!
Cosmetic:
alu gear lever,
3-spokes steering wheel,
clear indicators and side repeaters,
alu pedals,
Armourfend to protect from stone chips (pretty unnoticeable if the colour of the car's not dark)
Sound:
RSR mufflers (best value for money)
Drill air box (free, makes a lot of roar esp with WOT)
Handling:
Roocks suspension upgrade, then Alignment check/adj,(transformed the car)
new tyres!!( Pirrelli P-zero I prefer, but the car's rather sensitive to tyres / suspension set up)
Still considering:
Big red (when discs need changing next)
LWF/RS clutch (to be done when clutch needs replacing.)
HID conversion (not the proper one that costs £££)
Monoball and strut brace next yr as the rubber mount's split and need changing anyway.
Using Zymol when my tenis elbow isn't hurting too badly. Otherwise Smerr mixed in with shampoo.
Finally, track-days, about 3-4 per yr, I started going last yr, best and safest way to drive the car fast and on the limit, and I find myself driving a lot slower on the road as a result (other than occ blast), just don't feel the need to antmore.
Only did all the mods 'cos I plan to keep the car pretty much forever. Don't expect to get any money back when you sell. Happy upgrading!
Paul, A word of warning...
You are about to step on to a very slippery slope!
Making slight modifications to a 993 is quite adictive.
Especially with all these folks on here tempting you to spend your hard earned cash on this and that. I dare not add up what I have spent on mine so far, but looking at the pile of bits at the back of my garage, it must be one hell of a lot.
A word of advise though, stick to genuine Porsche bits (even if it means used items) If cost is an issue its tempting to save a bit here and there. But remember the old saying "you buy cheap you buy twice"
You are about to step on to a very slippery slope!
Making slight modifications to a 993 is quite adictive.
Especially with all these folks on here tempting you to spend your hard earned cash on this and that. I dare not add up what I have spent on mine so far, but looking at the pile of bits at the back of my garage, it must be one hell of a lot.
A word of advise though, stick to genuine Porsche bits (even if it means used items) If cost is an issue its tempting to save a bit here and there. But remember the old saying "you buy cheap you buy twice"
Butzi said:
LWF/RS clutch (to be done when clutch needs replacing.)
Do you reckon this is worth the extra dosh then? Heard mixed reviews on whether it's worth it or not, especially if the vast majority of your time is spent on the road, not the track.
Interested to hear anyone's views on this.
bungle said:
LWF/RS clutch (to be done when clutch needs replacing.)
Do you reckon this is worth the extra dosh then? Heard mixed reviews on whether it's worth it or not, especially if the vast majority of your time is spent on the road, not the track.
Interested to hear anyone's views on this.
I presume that the LWF/RS clutch is a lightweight version of the monomass jobbie, as opposed to the dual mass flywheel. I recently changed the clutch on my TT but after much consideration decided to stay with the dual mass. I was told by the specialist that the monomass is only worth the bother if you're planning a fair bit of track use, and then the rest of the time you have to put up with a clanking noise at idle that makes it sound like there's a loose component in the clutch.
Ultimately it seems to depend on how much time you're going to spend on the track.
i went with the lwf/clubsport clutch about 6 weeks ago.
On the RS version it makes a big difference as to how the car revs and picks up...max torque on these things is around 5100rpm, so it helps if you can get there a little quicker. the net effect feels as if you have 10% more bhp...I did say feels, as this mod will clearly not actually give you more power, but help you utilise the existing bhp.
As for downsides....stalling is not an issue,,re-set the ecu myself 20 mins,,,easy, never stalled in traffic or from cold.
There is a lot more noise, as you get the full effect of all the gearbox whirring around which now comes into the cabin as it is no longer dampened by the dual mass flywheel.
I try to do a few track days in the car and the lwf gives a noticeable pick up out of turns, i also find the whole car more responsive to steering inputs with the right foot.
Definitely a worthwhile mod if you will do some track work, if it is on a road car i would listen inside a car when the transmission fluids are warm...you may not like it at all.
On the RS version it makes a big difference as to how the car revs and picks up...max torque on these things is around 5100rpm, so it helps if you can get there a little quicker. the net effect feels as if you have 10% more bhp...I did say feels, as this mod will clearly not actually give you more power, but help you utilise the existing bhp.
As for downsides....stalling is not an issue,,re-set the ecu myself 20 mins,,,easy, never stalled in traffic or from cold.
There is a lot more noise, as you get the full effect of all the gearbox whirring around which now comes into the cabin as it is no longer dampened by the dual mass flywheel.
I try to do a few track days in the car and the lwf gives a noticeable pick up out of turns, i also find the whole car more responsive to steering inputs with the right foot.
Definitely a worthwhile mod if you will do some track work, if it is on a road car i would listen inside a car when the transmission fluids are warm...you may not like it at all.
I'm still not 100% sure about the LWF/RS clutch. It's a fair bit more expensive than the standard clutch, as well as the extra for LWF. But it does give much quicker throttle response. The rev builds up and die down much quicker, and it's more of a direct reponse to your foot/pedal actions, and that's one of the differences between a sports car and a family saloon. However, I guess it will also show up and magnify any poor foot work, and make the car feels quite rough and uncomfortable, esp to passenger. So I'm still not sure.
Slipery slope...indeed it is...when I first got the car, I planned to keep it completely stock, and thought the car was so good that no improvement could possibly be needed. Well, it didn't work....The car just gets better and better, and I just can't stop spending more and more money on it to make it even better!
Slipery slope...indeed it is...when I first got the car, I planned to keep it completely stock, and thought the car was so good that no improvement could possibly be needed. Well, it didn't work....The car just gets better and better, and I just can't stop spending more and more money on it to make it even better!
Butzi said:
Slipery slope...indeed it is...when I first got the car, I planned to keep it completely stock, and thought the car was so good that no improvement could possibly be needed. Well, it didn't work....The car just gets better and better, and I just can't stop spending more and more money on it to make it even better!
Ah well...I warned him anyway...Enjoy!
>> Edited by david hype on Tuesday 24th August 09:44
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