Does it Still Exist ?
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mph

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Wednesday 12th September 2012
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I'm sure this subject has been raised before (maybe by me !) but I can't find the thread.

How can I find out if a car still exists from the registration number ?

Car in question is an Austin 1800 reg. CDY 587C

Huntsman

9,315 posts

279 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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mph said:
I'm sure this subject has been raised before (maybe by me !) but I can't find the thread.

How can I find out if a car still exists from the registration number ?

Car in question is an Austin 1800 reg. CDY 587C
You can google for 'askmid' that will tell you if its insured.

You can also google for 'dvla vehicle check' that will show the latest on its registration.


Roy C

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313 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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There is also https://www.cartell.ie/, which only requires the reg number, but gives less info than the DVLA. However, it does show if the number is now on another vehicle.

guru_1071

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263 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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CDY 587C shows that its attached to an MG, not an Austin.

it was last on the road in 1983, so either scrapped, or sleeping in a garage

47p2

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190 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Services provided by DVLA:

Vehicle enquiry
The enquiry is complete.
The vehicle details for CDY 587C are:

Date of Liability......................................01 11 1983
Date of First Registration.......................01 11 1965
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Cylinder Capacity (cc).................................1798cc
Fuel Type ..................................................PETROL
Export Marker...................................................No
Vehicle Status........................................Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour..............................................GREY

mph

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 12th September 2012
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guru_1071 said:
CDY 587C shows that its attached to an MG, not an Austin.

it was last on the road in 1983, so either scrapped, or sleeping in a garage
Interesting.

It was originally an Austin 1800 which the owner "converted" into an MG 1800. He must have managed to re-regster it as an MG.

This is the only reference I have to it from a 1970 article.


andyps

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311 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Tell us more. I've never heard of the car, what was the source of that article?

mph

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Wednesday 12th September 2012
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I don't know much more about the car other than the mention in the article.

It was modified by colonel Rixon Bucknall who had a history of modifying his cars going back to the 1930's.

The article comes from a magazine called High Road which I believe was an in-house magazine for BL or whatever they were called then. The author was the well-respected journalist Philip Llewelin and the article was about Rixon Bucknall's various modified cars.

This picture comes from the same article and shows the car along with Rixon Bucknalls Jaguar special.


stuarte

1,082 posts

213 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Can't help I'm afraid but do hope it still exists. Fascinating history for what would otherwise be a fairly ordinary car.

47p2

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190 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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The Colonel is mentioned here

Tony2or4

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194 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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mph, I'm fascinated by the Jaguar Special, and the pix on the old thread linked by 47p2 are great. Do you still own the Special, and does it still have the RB1903 reg? How did you come to own it?

I remember seeing a picture of this very Jag Special in an article about interesting cars published in the weekend colour supplement of the Times (or possibly the Daily Telegraph) round about 1969, when I was a 6th former at skoo.

ETA I see from your profile that you do indeed still own it. Wowee, what a fleet, both past and current! wobble

Edited by Tony2or4 on Thursday 13th September 00:35

mph

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Thursday 13th September 2012
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Tony2or4 said:
mph, I'm fascinated by the Jaguar Special, and the pix on the old thread linked by 47p2 are great. Do you still own the Special, and does it still have the RB1903 reg? How did you come to own it?

I remember seeing a picture of this very Jag Special in an article about interesting cars published in the weekend colour supplement of the Times (or possibly the Daily Telegraph) round about 1969, when I was a 6th former at skoo.

ETA I see from your profile that you do indeed still own it. Wowee, what a fleet, both past and current! wobble

Edited by Tony2or4 on Thursday 13th September 00:35
I first saw the Special in the 1980's during a visit to restoration specialist David Royle. A customer of his had bought the car from a company that had it in storage for many years in lieu of a bad debt.

Royle's carried out some re-commissioning of the car and then their customer asked Royle's to sell it. It was way out of my league at the time but I determined to buy it and raised the money by various means.

I remember David Royle telling me that I would be surprised at the car's performance - and I was, my then girlfriend struggling to keep up with me on the drive home.

Because the car and the colonel had been so well known, and the whereabouts of the car had been a mystery for years, I received a very warm welcome by various luminaries in the JDC, some of whom had worked on the car with the colonel and had known him well.

For a combination of reasons I stupidly sold the car two years later and then spent the next fourteen years or so trying to get it back.

Again through a fortuitous (for me) set of circumtaces, including a high court case, I managed to get the car back from the chap I'd sold it to all those years ago.

The car is once again in fine fettle and I'm off to France in it on saturday.

The colour supplement article you refer to remains elusive and is just about the only thing I haven't managed to track down or even identify . I have a large suitcase full of articles, corrrespondence, photographs and colour slides from the period.

Tony2or4

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194 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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mph said:
Tony2or4 said:
mph, I'm fascinated by the Jaguar Special etc wobble
[mph's comprehensive reply]

I'm off to France in it on saturday.

The colour supplement article you refer to remains elusive and is just about the only thing I haven't managed to track down or even identify . I have a large suitcase full of articles, corrrespondence, photographs and colour slides from the period.
That really is a very interesting story - in fact it'd make a great book: the biography of the car, in effect.

That article I referred to I'm pretty sure was the Sunday Times Magazine, and 1968-69-70 feels about right, in terms of how old I was when I was reading various sorts of things about cars. I can see it in my mind's eye: there was a picture with a caption, but I don't think the car itself was referred to in the text. The article was about interesting cars in general (can't remember the title or overall specific theme) rather than just one individual car.

Have a great France trip, mph, and post some piccies of the car on here when you get back.

Tony.



andyps

7,819 posts

311 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Thanks for the info about the MG1800, interesting. Having seen the photo here I vaguely remember seeing it before but have no idea where.

neutral 3

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199 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Fantastic story !!

Perhaps a former Downton employee remembers it ? There can be very few Downton modified Land Crabs , But Daniel Richmond ( Downtons founder ) sadly passed away years ago .

Be worth contacting the Land Crab Owners club.

Hope you can find the Colonels MG.

mph

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Friday 14th September 2012
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Rumour has it that the car was still in existence ten years or so ago, somewhere in the Hastings area.

Is there any way to find out the last owner ?

dartissimus

954 posts

203 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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If it's in Hastings. it's bound to turn up. Over to you loveoldclassics.
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Tony2or4

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194 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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mph said:
The colour supplement article you refer to remains elusive and is just about the only thing I haven't managed to track down or even identify .
Found it!biggrin

My many books on cars are crammed with relevant cuttings over the years, and I've just found the one I had in mind tucked into a book about Jaguars. Looks like I kept the photo of the car but not the complete article, unfortunately, so I still don't know what specific aspect of cars the article as a whole was covering.

Looks like I copied the caption down before taking the cutting: it says "DT mag 21/10/66. Col. Rixon Bucknall with his 150mph Jag. special". (DT = Daily Telegraph.)

So I was slightly out when I reckoned the article dated from about 1969.

21/10/66 was a Friday: odd, that, because I don't remember the Telegraph doing a colour magazine on Fridays - thought it was weekends.



Took me a while to decipher what I'd written in brackets: it says "(Day of Aberfan)" - ie this article appeared on the same day as that dreadful disaster when a slag heap collapsed onto a village school, killing a large number of people. Terrible.

mph

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Tony2or4 said:
Found it!biggrin

My many books on cars are crammed with relevant cuttings over the years, and I've just found the one I had in mind tucked into a book about Jaguars. Looks like I kept the photo of the car but not the complete article, unfortunately, so I still don't know what specific aspect of cars the article as a whole was covering.

Looks like I copied the caption down before taking the cutting: it says "DT mag 21/10/66. Col. Rixon Bucknall with his 150mph Jag. special". (DT = Daily Telegraph.)

So I was slightly out when I reckoned the article dated from about 1969.

21/10/66 was a Friday: odd, that, because I don't remember the Telegraph doing a colour magazine on Fridays - thought it was weekends.



Took me a while to decipher what I'd written in brackets: it says "(Day of Aberfan)" - ie this article appeared on the same day as that dreadful disaster when a slag heap collapsed onto a village school, killing a large number of people. Terrible.
Well done that man.

Now can anyone tell me how/where I can find a copy of the Telegraph magazine from that date ?

Stinkfoot

2,245 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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I would chance my arm with a letter directly to the Telegraph editor as I know newspapers do keep archive copies although that far back I dont know.

Also there used to be companies that sold old newspapers to be used a gift on a persons birthdate so maybe this is an avenue you could explore ?