Application form is speeding an offence to put on?

[boredpilot]

Hi everyone, just completeing some non flying application forms (god if only I could get a job, overqualified for most jobs, not enough hours for flying grrrr)

On some of the forms it ask
have you ever been convicted, charged with or summoned for any offence

Does this include speeding?

Normaly I would put know but 2 are for a police related job, one a technical assistant (ie I can type in the data) and the other support clerk (ie I can type in the date) I love having a honours degree and the equivanlent of a 1st degree and being totally unemployable

[Don]

My advice is to mention it. At a later stage misinformation/lying on an application form can be used to sack you with no other reason, no notice and no final pay cheque!

Don't risk it.

I would be very surprised if having 3 points was a problem. Far more important is that you have a current UK driving licence and are able to drive on the public roads on business if necessary.

If you were banned or on 9 points it would be more of an issue understandably...

[boredpilot]

and if the points have pasted 5 years ago does that also need to be mentioned?

[Don]

boredpilot said:

and if the points have pasted 5 years ago does that also need to be mentioned?

I used to mention that I got three points for doing 99.99mph down the A55 when I was 24 (ish). Once I could no longer remember which year it was I just used to write "3 points more than ten years ago".

Comes across as being meticulously honest...and if the points have expired you're clearly a "reformed character."

I'd worry more about spelling and grammar, mate!

Since I haven't had to be interviewed for a job in a long, long time I'm not worried that I picked up 3 more points a couple of years back...but I DO interview people for jobs (I am the HR Director)...and I couldn't care less about speeding points unless its going to affect the job I am interviewing for. i.e. They will drive on business.

If you are worried it will be seen in a negative light go and do an IAM/ROSPA Advanced Driving course. Its a new qualification (always good on a CV) and shows your driving in a positive light...

[boredpilot]

Not too worried about it, had an sp50 back in 98 fine and points and got a bloody sp30 last year (Which if I had known better then I would have fought, 2 cars in front of me (definatly speeding away from me) im in the MG and apparently he got a clear lock on me and no reflections etc on the bigger cars in front and im the only one told to pull in the layby, but I learn something new everyday)

I would hope that getting a commercial pilots licence would show im fairly responsible now

Thanks for the help

[lunarscope]

Surely the "Rehabilitation of Offenders Act" means that after three years you don't have to declare speeding convictions. As far as the law is concerned, you have paid your debt to society and you now have a clean slate.

[Dibble]

lunarscope said:

Surely the "Rehabilitation of Offenders Act" means that after three years you don't have to declare speeding convictions. As far as the law is concerned, you have paid your debt to society and you now have a clean slate.

There are a number of occupations which require ALL convictions, spent or not, to be declared - most "Police" type jobs (civilian posts as well as PC).

It should say on the form whether or not the motoring offences are included. You could try contacting the relevant HR departments and asking them direct.

[boredpilot]

It does say all bar parking so ive put them both on.

Thanks

[docevi1]

My dad works for the Police as an interviewer and some of the stories he tells are revealing. When applying for the Police they automatically do a Police check before asking you in for an interview, Speeding offences are counted as are all other notes on your record. I don't know if the Speeding is exspunged from your Police record after the 3 years - I presume not?

Anyway, one bloke applied and turned out he was a wanted man (for parking tickets or something), obviously didn't get the job but was pulled in anyway There are many others as well!

[WildCat]

Surely you would not have to declare speeding ticket after 5 years on these application forms - as per insurance form thing?



(Firm checks us out anyway)

Can see why it would need declaring as person may have access to company cars.

Hardly a "dangerous offence" and threat to society.

But perhaps yet another reason why "criminalising" ordinary Joes for a minor "just over" blip is just "criminal" on part of SCPs.

But mugging - is not a priority crime

Can see why one has to declare skeletons in cupboard if applying to be Police Officer, or involved in Police work..

... begs question as to how a burglar managed to become a BiB though

Oh - forgot - sorry - theft is not a priority crime these days....

[Gijoe]

I've never considered speeding or parking as a conviction if dealt with by fixed penalty and so have never declared them.

Usually if driving is a requirement of the job they'll ask for a clean licence anyway, if so, I would declare the points.

[trooper1212]

WildCat said:

Surely you would not have to declare speeding ticket after 5 years on these application forms - as per insurance form thing?

Yep, 5 years is the limit on a fineable offense as per the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act.
As Dibble mentioned, some jobs are exempt from that act, but that should be stated on the application form.

[LRdriver II]

I dont think things like speeding tickets and parking tickets are "offences" in the criminal sense. In denmark you dont have to put that down as they dont show up on a Criminal Record background check.

I know how it feels trying to hustle for that first flying job and getting hours to apply for the jobs you really want. Stick with it, the industry is going up again with airlines starting to hire again. (That is, if you really want an airline job thesedays..)

[boredpilot]

An airline job is almost all that I ever wanted.

Helping someone trying to set up a 747 company. If he get the money im in as a first officer.

[LRdriver II]

Hope it works out for you. Dont beleive anything until its parked in the hanger pi**ing fuel. Also dont pay for your own rating if you can avoid it..thats how the industry got to the stage it is now, pilots funding their own typeratings, own uniforms and hotelrooms when standby away from their homebase..

[Gijoe]

boredpilot said:

An airline job is almost all that I ever wanted. Helping someone trying to set up a 747 company. If he get the money im in as a first officer.

Don't give up mate.....and when you succeed....make sure you buy my FMC....the best in the business.

[boredpilot]

We are looking at getting 200's so old steam driven insturments, how much to convert a 200 to FMS?