Amber Beacons
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towman

Original Poster:

14,938 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Following a post from Street on another thread:

streetcop said:
I was referring to the amount of yellow light users there are nowadays:

1) Recovery trucks
2) Motorway Maintenance
3) Highways Agency
4) Bus Shelter cleaners
5) Council Lawnmowers
6) British Telecom
7) Gas Companies
8) Electricity Companies
9) Water companies
10) occasional disability vehicles



What is your first thought when you see a flashing light in the distance(be honest!), and what do you do?

Interested to get the public view of something I have very strong views on.

Steve

NugentS

699 posts

270 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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To me it means that their is a potential obstruction in the road - ie parked in a non-sensible place or large load etc

It just means be careful to me...

Sean

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Aye...potential obstruction or slow moving vehicle..

Caution...mirror check and get ready to slow down even further, change course/direction or even stop..

Street

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

268 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Is there an official list of people that can use them and guidelines for use?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Anyone can..

Street

technobob

236 posts

263 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Could also be talivan these days

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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never seen one with an amber beacon, but it's possible..

Street

mechsympathy

57,287 posts

278 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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NugentS said:
To me it means that their is a potential obstruction in the road - ie parked in a non-sensible place or large load etc

It just means be careful to me...

Sean


I'll be more aware of what the traffic is doing, and leave a bigger space in front of me. If it's on a dual/m'way I'll be thinking about giving the inside lane some space to manoeuvre.

Flashing lights are just another clue that things aren't running as well as they should, like brake lights and bunching traffic ahead.

kevinday

13,670 posts

303 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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If it is on a vehicle that is driving along, and has no abnormal load I think 'Another dd has forgotten to turn the warning lights off..again'

One morning a few months ago I was driving to work following a refuse truck. The road becomes restricted to under 6 tonnes and he did not turn off as expected. Instead he turned on the amber flashers and drove straight through the restricted section, reached the other end and turned them off. Really taking the p***.

To me they are to warn of an abnormal load, or a danger in the road, such as a skip lorry maneuvering to drop or pick up a skip, a refuse lorry collecting rubbish, a recovery truck loading a broken down vehicle etc.

towman

Original Poster:

14,938 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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No disrespect to those who have posted, but no-one has mentioned people in the road working!

Steve

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Or students' bedrooms...

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Depends what the beacon is attached to...

Wide or slow moving vehicle - Hang back until it's safe to pass.

Works ongoing in the carriageway - should i state the obvious?...



Muppet in tow-truck / BT / cableCo / British Gas Van or other vehicle moving along at normal pace and not doing anything of note - ignore em and carry on as normal.

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Streetcop said:
never seen one with an amber beacon, but it's possible..

Street


Happy to oblige & inform..



towman

Original Poster:

14,938 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Wouldn`t mind the opinion of BiB regarding recovery vehicles using them while towing.

Steve

g_attrill

8,725 posts

269 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Streetcop said:
Anyone can..



Nope - it's defined in the RVLR 1989 who can use amber lights:

RVLR 9189 said:

(i) a road clearance vehicle;

(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;

(iii) a breakdown vehicle;

(iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;

(v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m;

(vi) a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;

(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;

(viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act;

(ix) a vehicle used for escort purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;

(x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;

(xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;

(xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;


Note that a safety camera van which doesn't also load/unload fixed cameras would be breaking the law by displaying an amber beacon.

Gareth

>> Edited by g_attrill on Saturday 21st August 22:46

w_eden

9 posts

266 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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g_attrill said:


RVLR 9189 said:


(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting revenue;




monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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No doubt they'd twist it to suit themselves and sneak it in under sub-section xi as a "survey" vehicle...

pmanson

13,388 posts

276 months

Saturday 21st August 2004
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Milk floats have them as well

Flat in Fifth

47,939 posts

274 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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g_attrill said:

Streetcop said:
Anyone can..




Nope - it's defined in the RVLR 1989 who can use amber lights:


RVLR 9189 said:

(i) a road clearance vehicle;

(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;

(iii) a breakdown vehicle;

(iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;

(v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m;

(vi) a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;

(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;

(viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act;

(ix) a vehicle used for escort purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;

(x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;

(xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;

(xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;



Note that a safety camera van which doesn't also load/unload fixed cameras would be breaking the law by displaying an amber beacon.

Gareth



Point worth mentioning is that the obligation to show beacons varies between normal roads and unrestricted dual carriageways. Thus, for example, if your granny was of a mind to take her invalid carriage down a dual she must have a warning beacon fitted.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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monkeyhanger said:

Streetcop said:
never seen one with an amber beacon, but it's possible..

Street



Happy to oblige & inform..





Thanks mate...I'll keep an eye out when I'm in a different county now......my force doesn't have the beacons on the vans you see..

Street