Why resign from a job if you've done nothing wrong?
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A friend of mine - someone that I *need* to trust - was recently put on "gardening leave" as a sum of *charity* money - a four figure sum, so not remotely triviel - disappeared from their desk.
This friend has subsequently resigned their position, saying that it avoids the "scandal" and "gossip". (This sounds b
ks - surely it looks worse?)
Being self-employed I'm not really privy to the workings of big companies but this looks odd to me - if it were me I'd stand my ground if it wasn't me that took the money. Why put yourself out of work because of some thieving scrote?
Or am I being too simplistic?
Any HR type people think this is what is normal?
This friend has subsequently resigned their position, saying that it avoids the "scandal" and "gossip". (This sounds b
ks - surely it looks worse?)Being self-employed I'm not really privy to the workings of big companies but this looks odd to me - if it were me I'd stand my ground if it wasn't me that took the money. Why put yourself out of work because of some thieving scrote?
Or am I being too simplistic?
Any HR type people think this is what is normal?I think its madness to resign in those circumstances - the only exception being if its someones wife just doing a little part time job to keep themselves busy, rather than needing the money.
They have basically made themselves unemployable. There is zero chance I would entertain a job application from someone who resigned their last job while under investigation for a theft.
They have basically made themselves unemployable. There is zero chance I would entertain a job application from someone who resigned their last job while under investigation for a theft.
Pickled Piper said:
The employer may have offered him that option. If he was caught bang to rights, the employer may have just told him he can give the money back and resign or they will call in the Police and pursue criminal charges. Causes less problems for both parties.
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10000% this.pp
"You can either give the money back and resign, and we'll give you a neutral reference, or we'll sack you for gross misconduct and bring in the police. Your choice".
Soovy said:
Pickled Piper said:
The employer may have offered him that option. If he was caught bang to rights, the employer may have just told him he can give the money back and resign or they will call in the Police and pursue criminal charges. Causes less problems for both parties.
pp
10000% this.pp
"You can either give the money back and resign, and we'll give you a neutral reference, or we'll sack you for gross misconduct and bring in the police. Your choice".
It's a friend of mine who is in HR and I sometimes wonder at some of the stuff she says.
I *do* know however that it's exactly as Soovy has surmised - she was given the option to resign and a reference.
I just found it odd - if that was me and my job and I was innocent then I'd be damned if I was resigning - I'd be saying "bring it on - get the cops in!".
Its not exactly hard to ask around and find out why someone left their last job though. If they're applying for jobs in the same area and industry, a lot of people who know each other. And all of this is only made easier with everyone using linked in, Facebook etc.
For me, the neutral reference along with the apparently leaving a job for absolutely no reason would be the first signal something wasn't as it seems. Enough so to warrant further investigation, or maybe just outright bin the CV.
For me, the neutral reference along with the apparently leaving a job for absolutely no reason would be the first signal something wasn't as it seems. Enough so to warrant further investigation, or maybe just outright bin the CV.
fido said:
Look at it another way, if someone offered you 8 weeks contract pay and suggest you f8ck off .. you might take them up on it, right? Maybe she felt the same way about her job.
Irrelevant; the person in question had the money taken, it was resign or be sacked. Said person is not in the position to be out of work.Dog Star said:
Irrelevant; the person in question had the money taken, it was resign or be sacked. Said person is not in the position to be out of work.
Assuming they had worked there long enough, they could have just let themselves be sacked then go down the employment tribunal if they felt the sacking was unfair.I'm not sure how likely that would be to work - imho even if she didn't steal the money, it would be gross misconduct to just leave the cash in her desk and let someone else steal it. We're not talking about £20 petty cash... it should certainly have been securely stored.
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