Parking Frustrations
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stugolf

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480 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Basically the story goes my mrs's mum and dad are getting hacked off at the moment by a guy in one of these articulated recovery trucks basically parking right near their driveway.

He's had this truck for years and has now decided to not park outside his own house which is no where near my mrs's mum and dads (at least a mile away)and start parking this huge vehicle outside their house or in very close proximity.

You can't reverse out of the drive way because you can't see what coming the other way and its now turned a pretty major road into a single track, with cars having to navigate around this truck, bear in mind its a 24 hour recovery and it obviously hasn't got much work on as its always there.

There's history with this truck too, he's been told twice by the mrs's mum to please not park there, the latest being about a 2 months ago.

I know I have a number of options, council, Police, burn to the ground etc

But which is the best? Any advice gratefully received!


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7,450 posts

305 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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If he's parked legally and has a valid road fund disc there's nothing you can do. You do not own or have rights to the road outside your property.
You could however hire/borrow a similar wagon and, if you know where he lives, park it outside his house...

Laurel Green

31,065 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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If the vehicle is over 3.5 tons then it should not be parked on the road overnight. Mind, I'm no legal expert and there might be exceptions to this law.

stugolf

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480 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Very true, although I have rung VOSA and they have stated it shouldn't be parked there even though it is except from an Operators License

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

292 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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stugolf said:
You can't reverse out of the drive way because you can't see what coming the other way
Have they tried reversing in to their drive so they have better vision when they leave?

I know it doesn't move the truck, but it seems a sensible thing to do given that it's there.

I've been having arguments with a woman who parks on the inside of a blind corner at a junction near my house for about 8 years now. She even used to leave big notes for me on her windscreen saying it wasn't dangerous. She's moving, which seems to be the only way this sort of thing gets resolved. I'm hoping the new owners of the house will use their double width driveway instead of park on the road.

stugolf

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480 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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I would normally do this but it doesn't matter which way you come out of the drive as the drive is bricked on both sides so even coming out forwards when something is parked in your view is awkward

anonymous-user

81 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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You might be in luck if it's not meant to be parked on the road. Otherwise I'm afraid it's a case of having to put up with it. Sad but true.

Or let his tyres flat a few times - he'll want to find somewhere else to leave it if some sod keeps letting his tyres flat when he leaves in there, it's very inconvenient. Bit naughty, but needs must.

Hackney

7,408 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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dme123 said:
You might be in luck if it's not meant to be parked on the road. Otherwise I'm afraid it's a case of having to put up with it. Sad but true.

Or let his tyres flat a few times - he'll want to find somewhere else to leave it if some sod keeps letting his tyres flat when he leaves in there, it's very inconvenient. Bit naughty, but needs must.
I agree.

Sadly there is often a gap between the law / the rules and what you should do.
At the top of my mum's road a car regularly parks right by the junction making it impossible to see to the left. While he's not breaking the law (it's a single yellow - not that a traffic warden has ever been down there) it's inconsiderate and a danger.

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Nothing you can do really. Only thing I can advise, is that the moment he moves it, park a car in it's place, effectively blocking him from re-parking there.

stugolf

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480 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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TheTurbonator said:
Nothing you can do really. Only thing I can advise, is that the moment he moves it, park a car in it's place, effectively blocking him from re-parking there.
I did this last night and he parked a millimetre off my bumper as close as he could get (I did take a picture) so have considered ringing the Police as its boardline intimidation

KaraK

13,755 posts

236 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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dme123 said:
Or let his tyres flat a few times - he'll want to find somewhere else to leave it if some sod keeps letting his tyres flat when he leaves in there, it's very inconvenient. Bit naughty, but needs must.
Letting someone's tyres down is not a "bit naughty" it's fking stupid.

Ean218

2,040 posts

277 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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A little used and much abused piece of the law may help, if you can persuade the police to be interested...

Highway Code said:
250
Cars, goods vehicles not exceeding 1525 kg unladen weight, invalid carriages, motorcycles and pedal cycles may be parked without lights on a road (or lay-by) with a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) or less if they are

at least 10 metres (32 feet) away from any junction, close to the kerb and facing in the direction of the traffic flow
in a recognised parking place or lay-by

Other vehicles and trailers, and all vehicles with projecting loads, MUST NOT be left on a road at night without lights.

(Laws RVLR reg 24 & CUR reg 82(7))
He should leave his lights on all night if >1525kg unladen.

stugolf

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480 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Ean218 said:
He should leave his lights on all night if >1525kg unladen.
Legend, thankyou this may help

C.A.R.

3,992 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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I came home at the weekend to see the cul-de-sac had been completely blocked by a small silver Vauxhall Corsa.

I was stuck in a main road trying to turn into the junction.

My only real option was to sound the horn quickly (it was about 4 in the afternoon!)

This prompted the owner of the car to come out of her house and start shouting expletives. Unfortunately it was wasted breath as I had my window up and couldn't hear her clearly.

Fortunately her partner (seeing sense) came out and moved her car so I could get by.

Seems some people just like to abandon their car / van wherever they like!

There's regularly a Toyota service van parked in the road opposite other parked cars in Stevenage. Causes havoc in the mornings but pressumably there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Birdster

2,542 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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KaraK said:
Letting someone's tyres down is not a "bit naughty" it's fking stupid.
Granted it is stupid, but if the owner has been asked nicely then what are you to do.

It sounds like the owner of the recovery truck is an ass anyway. Why has he stopped parking it outside his own place? Oh hang on, he doesn't st on his own doorstep! He knows that it is a pisstake but is happy to do it to others.

I can't imagine that many of us here would want one of these, minus the artic parked outside their house. I'm guessing by the OP's description that it is one of these things. Not that company etc, this is just a library image.




Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

292 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Could you call the recovery company with bogus local call-outs half an hour before you want to go out?

KaraK

13,755 posts

236 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Birdster said:
KaraK said:
Letting someone's tyres down is not a "bit naughty" it's fking stupid.
Granted it is stupid, but if the owner has been asked nicely then what are you to do.

It sounds like the owner of the recovery truck is an ass anyway. Why has he stopped parking it outside his own place? Oh hang on, he doesn't st on his own doorstep! He knows that it is a pisstake but is happy to do it to others.

I can't imagine that many of us here would want one of these, minus the artic parked outside their house. I'm guessing by the OP's description that it is one of these things. Not that company etc, this is just a library image.



I know it's a revolutionary idea but how about - Behave like a grown up?

Just because someone is being an ass doesn't mean it's ok to be an ass back. It's that sort of playground "but he started it" bullst that causes half these problems. If the truck is parked legally and the owner is unwilling to move it after being asked politely then the OP just needs to suck it up and get on with his life, on the other hand if there is a legal constraint on parking there then the OP needs to persue it through the correct channels.

For the avoidance of doubt I'm not suggesting that the OP is behaving inappropriately - my ire is directed purely at the idiots advocating letting the trucks tires down or similar

Birdster

2,542 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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I'm not sure how I would act in that situation. So I can't say. I have never done something like that, as thankfully most people have been amicable.

However if someone has asked nicely and they have just been ignored then I can't berate them for getting their own back if they wish to do so. Just be prepared for it not to end there.

As for the thought of sucking it up. Easy to say when it's not happening to us.

My main point to make is not to argue whether letting someone’s tires down is wrong. We know it is wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right etc. I’m not arguing with you.

The only important situation in this thread is helping the OP. Hopefully it can be resolved through legal channels due to the Highway Code.

Stepping back for a second and taking the legal argument out of the equation it’s a matter of courtesy to your fellow human. Parking that outside someone’s house on a regular basis is not courteous.

Anyway I can see that you've decided to take the posts personal by directing it at "those advocating letting the trucks tires down". Again Pistonheads can't have a conversation.

I was talking hypothetically for those who find themselves in these situations. For the record I have found my tires let down for no reason, as did many others in the same car park. I have also had my car damaged whilst parked, so have suffered these things. Doesn't mean I'm going to judge someone for their suggestion of an action.

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Hudson

1,857 posts

214 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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stugolf said:
I did this last night and he parked a millimetre off my bumper as close as he could get (I did take a picture) so have considered ringing the Police as its boardline intimidation
Park another car behind him in the same manner - problem solved biggrin

mmm-five

12,273 posts

311 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Ean218 said:
He should leave his lights on all night if >1525kg unladen.
So an 1800kg M5 shouldn't be parked without leaving the lights on?