Burger seasoning
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ZAndy

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115 posts

221 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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What amounts of S+P are people adding to their home-made burgers? Lets say you have one pound of mince...


Output Flange

17,045 posts

239 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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It's annoying, but the answer is "to taste". Really depends on how you like them.

Type R Tom

4,303 posts

177 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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I've read not to add salt till cooking and sprinkle on top as the salt can effect the meat and cause it to go tough if mixed in before (i.e. if you made them in advance)

Type R Tom

4,303 posts

177 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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I like to add Oyster sauce, make the mix then take a small amount (like a mini meat ball) and cook it. Taste it and check it for seasoning then add more if required. Just be careful not to eat it all!

grumbledoak

32,545 posts

261 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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None, normally, for me. I often to add other flavours which will have salt in them, but I don't season the meat itself.

21TonyK

13,239 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Table salt and white pepper mixed 9:1 then added at 2% of meat weight.

Edit: to be more helpful, make up your mix a few hours ahead before shaping. This allows the salt to break down some of the proteins which glue the burgers together. Then allow to rest in the fridge overnight.

Wild Rumpus

375 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I do mine with half a very finely chopped onion and 1tbsp of tomato puree in each 500g of mince. I then coat each burger in dry jerk seasoning (Tex's, preferably). This chars on cooking to give a great taste.

zygalski

7,759 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Type R Tom said:
I've read not to add salt till cooking and sprinkle on top as the salt can effect the meat and cause it to go tough if mixed in before (i.e. if you made them in advance)
Burgers have salt added at the seasoning/mixing stage.
Decent mince should be used (ironically with a fairly high fat content) and the burgers should be cooked pink in the middle, not all the way through.
That's the secret to a juicy burger.
I've never heard of sprinkling salt on top of the patty either just before cooking or after.

Type R Tom

4,303 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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zygalski said:
Burgers have salt added at the seasoning/mixing stage.
Decent mince should be used (ironically with a fairly high fat content) and the burgers should be cooked pink in the middle, not all the way through.
That's the secret to a juicy burger.
I've never heard of sprinkling salt on top of the patty either just before cooking or after.
It was something about drawing the moisture out of the meat before cooking, typical I can find the article now but I’ve definitely seen a couple of recipes that suggest that. I’d start here http://amazingribs.com/, it’s a pretty epic website for BBQ fans, I used his recipes to feed 25 at my birthday party the other year with no complaints.

There are thousands of recipes out there but it all comes down to personal preference, next time I might make a batch up with the seasoning added in the mix and some without. Think that’s my Friday night sorted!

Mobile Chicane

21,976 posts

240 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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To 500g of 20% beef mince I add the following for a 'plain' burger:

- 1 finely chopped onion
- 1 teaspoon salt
- 1 teaspoon Dunn's River all-purpose seasoning
- 'around' 1/2 teaspoon black pepper, since there's pepper in the Dunn's River mix

No breadcrumbs or egg.

The secret of getting the above mix to keep together when cooking is to use a presentation ring to press the meat into burger shapes on a foil covered board, and refrigerate for 30 mins before cooking.

Use a burger grill if BBQing.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

254 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Wild Rumpus said:
I do mine with half a very finely chopped onion and 1tbsp of tomato puree in each 500g of mince. I then coat each burger in dry jerk seasoning (Tex's, preferably). This chars on cooking to give a great taste.
I soften my finely-chopped onion until it's just taking a bit of colour, allow it to cool, then add it to the mince.

GCH

4,138 posts

230 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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1lb local ground beef from the butcher
A couple of fresh shallots, finely chopped
10x jacobs cream crackers, pounded to very fine dust
1 large free range egg
A little fresh sea salt (unprocessed sticky stuff)
A tiny bit of pepper
A splash of spanish olive oil
umami paste

Once formed, leave to set in the fridge for at least 24hrs


Been doing the above receipe for years for meatballs and burgers.
Adding umami paste started after spending a few months in LA and discovering umami burger




mattdaniels

7,362 posts

310 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Just meat and salt. No egg, crackers, breadcrumb or any other nonsense. The trick is to refrigerate the burgers overnight. They bind properly then. If you cook them straight away they fall apart.

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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mattdaniels said:
Just meat and salt. No egg, crackers, breadcrumb or any other nonsense. The trick is to refrigerate the burgers overnight. They bind properly then. If you cook them straight away they fall apart.
This is what Heston thingybobs said. The salt acts as a binding agent if left a few hours in the mince.

miniman

29,947 posts

290 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Can't say I've had any issues going straight from mix to BBQ. They only break up if you try to turn them too soon.

insurance_jon

4,094 posts

274 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Sorry for the thread hijack, but have any of you tried the Heston method of making burgers where you lay the strands of mince out?

http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston...

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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insurance_jon said:
Sorry for the thread hijack, but have any of you tried the Heston method of making burgers where you lay the strands of mince out?

http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston...
I think it's a lot easier if you see it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPGiGxkbSp8 from 11 minutes.

I cook burgers using the smash burger method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g4Kkc0jXWk

big_treacle

1,727 posts

288 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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I used to do the whole burger mix thing with meat, salt, pepper, egg/breadcrumbs & sticking them in the fridge to stop them falling apart.
Then I was given a burger press as a joke present. Now I just mash up some fatty mince, press a 1/4 pound per burger & give each one a quick grind of salt & pepper before chucking them under the grill. They're amazing biggrin They don't fall apart and they taste great. And it's super easy and super quick

Edited by big_treacle on Monday 24th September 10:56

Wild Rumpus

375 posts

202 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
Wild Rumpus said:
I do mine with half a very finely chopped onion and 1tbsp of tomato puree in each 500g of mince. I then coat each burger in dry jerk seasoning (Tex's, preferably). This chars on cooking to give a great taste.
I soften my finely-chopped onion until it's just taking a bit of colour, allow it to cool, then add it to the mince.
Sounds like a decent idea, I'll give it a try the next time.

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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big_treacle said:
I used to do the whole burger mix thing with meat, salt, pepper, egg/breadcrumbs & sticking them in the fridge to stop them falling apart.
Then I was given a burger press as a joke present. Now I just mash up some fatty mince, press a 1/4 pound per burger & give each one a quick grind of salt & pepper before chucking them under the grill. They're amazing biggrin They don't fall apart and they taste great. And it's super easy and super quick

Edited by big_treacle on Monday 24th September 10:56
I don't understand people who put the likes of onion, breadcrumbs , egg, cheese and god knows what else into their burgers.

Fortunes, vast fortunes, have been made from making good burgers and on the whole they all say the same thing.

100% meat.