TVR handbrakes - poor design?
TVR handbrakes - poor design?
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TUS 373

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5,137 posts

310 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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Just a little bit of market research amongst TVR owners here.

What is the consensus of opinion concerning the performance of handbrakes on later TVRs - i.e. Chimaera, Griffith, Cerbera, Tuscan and onwards?

Are people generally happy with the operation of handbrakes for hillstarts, leaving on hills, general security - or are there stories to tell?

We are of course talking about handbrakes that work on the rear discs - rather than the 'inboard' variety that may be found on the wedges. Thanks, Bryan.

>>> Edited by TUS 373 on Sunday 22 August 17:02

oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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I've had no probs with the handbrake on the chim.

oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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Los Angeles said:

oggs said:
I've had no probs with the handbrake on the chim.

How smarmy can you get?


Smarmy no... answer to question YES

TUS 373

Original Poster:

5,137 posts

310 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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LA, YHM.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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I'm astonished you lot use the handbrake. Just leave it in gear when you park. Handbrake cables snap, parked cars crash all by them selves. Leave it in gear and it won't go anywhere.

julianhj

8,868 posts

291 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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Never left mine in gear, always parked on a steep driveway, no probs. Have heard a few horror stories about discs cooling after a hard run, leading to some mishaps! A PH-ers new T350 IIRC was one that springs to mind.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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julianhj said:
Never left mine in gear, always parked on a steep driveway


It's only a matter of time before you post that your car reversed itself off the drive.

Why don't you leave it in gear? It's normal and good practice when parking on a slope. You apply the hand(parking)brake too.

TUS 373

Original Poster:

5,137 posts

310 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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OK, I recognise that leaving a car in gear is a belt and braces approach to it rolling away. (However, if that car is shunted by another when parked, it may damage the transmission as well as the body work, and needless to say, carefull to take out of gear before starting it!).

But, a handbrake is a brake and a gearbox is a gearbox. An handbrake is there to:
- keep parked cars from going anywhere
- hillstarts
- emergency brake incase there is a hydraulic failure

Therefore, I'm asking, are people happy with the operation of the handbrake for the above?

old64er

1,388 posts

267 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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TUS 373 said:
OK, I recognise that leaving a car in gear is a belt and braces approach to it rolling away. (However, if that car is shunted by another when parked, it may damage the transmission as well as the body work, and needless to say, carefull to take out of gear before starting it!).

But, a handbrake is a brake and a gearbox is a gearbox. An handbrake is there to:
- keep parked cars from going anywhere
- hillstarts
- emergency brake incase there is a hydraulic failure

Therefore, I'm asking, are people happy with the operation of the handbrake for the above?




no i am not happy with the handbrake on my griff but this type of handbrake has always had a weakness on efficiency.
i have had a couple of instances with this type of brake system, one was in a nissan some years ago (silvia turbo) after a hard drive it rolled down the works carpark into the MD's BMW !!!
and my griff had made it all the way into the garage the other week (luckily not hitting anything).

I probably explains why the more modern approach is a drum in disc set up.

Like it says in the highway code - leave it in gear


>> Edited by old64er on Sunday 22 August 18:17

Targarama

14,780 posts

312 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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My Chimaera's handbrake always worked well for a while after a service, but soon went back to being a bit 'loose'. Also, it took a lot of effort to pull on/off (not easy for short people I'm sure).

My T350's handbrake is great. As good as my Audi's. Famous last words ...

If I park on an incline in any car I turn the wheels and engage a forward gear. I thought this was part of the highway code?

bogie

17,057 posts

301 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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Never had any probs on the Tuscan other than the action itself being a little heavy. Always take the belt n braces approach for parking on inclines - handbrake on, in gear, and wheels turned into the curb etc

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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My handbrake has been very good for the 14 months that I've had it, up until today. Now it seems to not work at all, can push it back with my feet.

Posted a thread on the Griff forum.

Grouch.

theblacktuscks

823 posts

282 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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The handbrake is one of the few things that I've not had any trouble with. Mileage 16,700. Damn, now I'm tempting fate!

chimleic

254 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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No problems with mine, although it requires considerable 'muscle' to engage fully (am concerned that the cable might snap eventually).

FourWheelDrift

92,234 posts

313 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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Both been utter crap even after adjustment.

Norbert500

86 posts

266 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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I struggle with the griff handbrake.

I can rarely get it to hold without using two hands but I am not the tallest or strongest of people. I park in gear and am learning to live without a handbrake as much as possible.

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Sunday 22nd August 2004
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TUS 373 said:
Are people generally happy with the operation of handbrakes for hillstarts, leaving on hills, general security - or are there stories to tell?
Er! Shhhh! Don't mention "H***b****s" if flasher is around.........




Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

298 months

Monday 23rd August 2004
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No problem on either the Chimaera or Tuscan. Neither have ever been a problem even on steep slopes.

Both seem to hold well on 2nd indent. If I use both hands I can get a third but only had to use that once on a 25% slope, when I also used the foot brake to help.

I don't leave in gear when parked however I do ususally point the wheel at the curb to prevent runaway.

Bob

sagalout

23,319 posts

311 months

Monday 23rd August 2004
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My Chim h brake always held whilst you were pulling it on but when you left it to the ratchet, way it went. Never right in 3.5 years.

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Monday 23rd August 2004
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What handbrake ?

I've found a long stick in the middle of the car, that doesn't appear to do f**k all.

I might saw it off