We'd just started to like journalists again, then ...
We'd just started to like journalists again, then ...
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aclivity

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4,072 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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I took to reading the Telegraph as my paper of choice recently - don't get a paper every day, and I used to always go for the Independent if I did buy one, but the Telegraph won me over with the fairly high quality of writing.

Today, however, this dreadful article about cyclists means I'm back to being a Independent reader. I'm almost tempted to create a log on just so I can comment on it.

About the only stereotype she doesn't bring in is road tax, so I suppose there is some movement there.

P-Jay

11,404 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Why is it that we all get lumped together all the bloody time?

Someone throws a KFC wrapper out his car and he's a littering, selfish tt.
Someone cuts you up and he's a manic
Someone drives at 30 in a 50 and they're a dawdling old sod or a Sunday driver.

1 cyclist acts like a prick and somehow they're representative of everyone who owns a bike.


It seems that every non-cyclist thinks we're all part of some club and we have meeting every week to decice how to upset everyone else.

aclivity

Original Poster:

4,072 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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P-Jay said:
we're all part of some club and we have meeting every week to decice how to upset everyone else.
[looks round suspiciously checking for over shoulder readers]
that would be silly, of course that doesn't happen

By the way, you didn't dial in on Friday, and your subs are late

Watchman

6,391 posts

274 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Seems to be a London-centric thing. Whenever you get so many people crushed together, they're all going to piss each other off. Whenever I go to London, everyone seems annoyed by someone else.

Minorities get stereotyped. Moreso when population density is so high.

walm

10,644 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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fk me that's atrocious.

She said we wear neoprene.
Even under the time pressure of a triathlon I would take a little time to strip off the wetsuit. rolleyes

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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What an appallingly poor article that is. Does that person get paid to write such rubbish?

MadDad

3,835 posts

290 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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I would expect to see that in the Mail, but the Telegraph?

Anyhow, very poor journalism based on someones personal opinion/rant - not fact, love the way 'Jan' implies it is not possible to be a 'normal' person who holds down a job, has a family, walks a dog etc AND be a cyclist........


anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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nammynake said:
What an appallingly poor article that is. Does that person get paid to write such rubbish?
Agreed. Very lazy as well, I'm guessing it started like this, "mmmmmm, need to write something, mmmmmmm needs to have an edgy slant, ....... mmmmm BIKE, BIKE, BIKE!!!!!!! Brilliant!

Fartomatic5000

558 posts

184 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Typical, starts off moaning about one person (politician in a suit) and can't help herself using tired old stereotypes. "lycra louts" indeed.

yellowjack

18,441 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Another Gem from the pen of the writer of such sitcom smash hits as "Duck Patrol" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142031/

She likes to think she's funny:

"Jan Etherington's COMEDY WRITING COURSE" http://www.comedycourse.biz/

and she looks like such a nice little old lady http://www.suttonelms.org.uk/jan-etherington-gavin...

fulham911club

2,046 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Do you really think she wrote it without a sense of fun? It wasn't meant to be taken literally.

But some of her observations can be seen in London where unfortunately there are too many cyclists (but still a minority) that behave like lunatics and give the cycling population as a whole a bad name.

You also have to bear in mind that people will always remember the cyclist that was aggressive, out-riding the flow of traffic, jumping the red light, failing to stop at a zebra crossing, etc. Same person will forget those that don't do this. Same with idiot car drivers / motorcycle riders / pedestrians.

aclivity

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4,072 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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fulham911club said:
Do you really think she wrote it without a sense of fun? It wasn't meant to be taken literally.
But it wasn't even remotely funny? confused Or fun, for that matter. Shoddy cheap journalism, poorly written (sideboards? one foul swoop?) and bigotted.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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The article seems to have disappeared from the Politics page.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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laugh at the idea the telegraph is a quality paper. They portray themselves that way, and some pieces are quite good, but most of the time they're as lazy as sensationalist as all the others.

The piece isn't insulting to cyclists, but it is insulting to journalism. My sister's dog could write better than that. And people wonder why print media is dying....

S10GTA

13,783 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Did anybody hear this bint on the Jeremy Vine show?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mw0sx

timbo48

688 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Dare I mention it on PH but the "Grauniad" is pretty good for cycling, especially the racing variety. Of course its politics might not suit.......

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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aclivity said:
I took to reading the Telegraph as my paper of choice recently - don't get a paper every day, and I used to always go for the Independent if I did buy one, but the Telegraph won me over with the fairly high quality of writing.

Today, however, this dreadful article about cyclists means I'm back to being a Independent reader. I'm almost tempted to create a log on just so I can comment on it.

About the only stereotype she doesn't bring in is road tax, so I suppose there is some movement there.
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Potatoes

3,606 posts

199 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Lol, well summed up that commentor