another gt3 bites the dust
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996-GT3-2005...
this one is bound to make it back to market so a heads up
this one is bound to make it back to market so a heads up
i was wondering how many folks would come on saying that it hardly looks anything hence the reason i held off posting. at first scan theres nothing much untoward at all huh but look at the photo of the rear lid and again with the lid up and see how everything is subtly pushed across to the right.
the rear left chassis rail is bent. it may well be possible to cut out and fix, pretty much anything can but thats an iceberg right there. you are looking at seriously huge amounts of time and cost to get it right even before you start on the amount of under the skin body parts you would be needing to order to replace.
the back rails are the weak point on these cars, it doesnt take much if you go in backwards at a slight angle to kill the chassis and as a result its the one place you dont want to hit anything. its compounded by the effort that is required to get into it to replace and how many other body parts bend and buckle when this gives.
having spent way too much time in cups and at race weekends its the one thing you dont want ever want to see. front end bumps look much worse but are super easy to repair. the rear end is the exact opposite. usually only a ripple here or there but the chassis is as dead as a dodo.
as an aside, the engine hangs from a carrier attached at each rail. when one bends the engine is twisted or pushed over. sometimes you are lucky and the engine or transmission mounts give way. if not then you need to open up everything and crack check the lot (engine and gearbox) to see what took the load)
that ones a vipers nest just waiting for the unwary.
the rear left chassis rail is bent. it may well be possible to cut out and fix, pretty much anything can but thats an iceberg right there. you are looking at seriously huge amounts of time and cost to get it right even before you start on the amount of under the skin body parts you would be needing to order to replace.
the back rails are the weak point on these cars, it doesnt take much if you go in backwards at a slight angle to kill the chassis and as a result its the one place you dont want to hit anything. its compounded by the effort that is required to get into it to replace and how many other body parts bend and buckle when this gives.
having spent way too much time in cups and at race weekends its the one thing you dont want ever want to see. front end bumps look much worse but are super easy to repair. the rear end is the exact opposite. usually only a ripple here or there but the chassis is as dead as a dodo.
as an aside, the engine hangs from a carrier attached at each rail. when one bends the engine is twisted or pushed over. sometimes you are lucky and the engine or transmission mounts give way. if not then you need to open up everything and crack check the lot (engine and gearbox) to see what took the load)
that ones a vipers nest just waiting for the unwary.
Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 29th September 13:46
not cheap is it?...
we just bought this for the same money!
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/mot...
yum!!
we just bought this for the same money!
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/mot...
yum!!
fioran0 said:
at first scan theres nothing much untoward at all huh but look at the photo of the rear lid and again with the lid up and see how everything is subtly pushed across to the right.
the rear left chassis rail is bent. it may well be possible to cut out and fix, pretty much anything can but thats an iceberg right there. you are looking at seriously huge amounts of time and cost to get it right even before you start on the amount of under the skin body parts you would be needing to order to replace.
the back rails are the weak point on these cars, it doesnt take much if you go in backwards at a slight angle to kill the chassis and as a result its the one place you dont want to hit anything. its compounded by the effort that is required to get into it to replace and how many other body parts bend and buckle when this gives.
having spent way too much time in cups and at race weekends its the one thing you dont want ever want to see. front end bumps look much worse but are super easy to repair. the rear end is the exact opposite. usually only a ripple here or there but the chassis is as dead as a dodo.
as an aside, the engine hangs from a carrier attached at each rail. when one bends the engine is twisted or pushed over. sometimes you are lucky and the engine or transmission mounts give way. if not then you need to open up everything and crack check the lot (engine and gearbox) to see what took the load)
.the rear left chassis rail is bent. it may well be possible to cut out and fix, pretty much anything can but thats an iceberg right there. you are looking at seriously huge amounts of time and cost to get it right even before you start on the amount of under the skin body parts you would be needing to order to replace.
the back rails are the weak point on these cars, it doesnt take much if you go in backwards at a slight angle to kill the chassis and as a result its the one place you dont want to hit anything. its compounded by the effort that is required to get into it to replace and how many other body parts bend and buckle when this gives.
having spent way too much time in cups and at race weekends its the one thing you dont want ever want to see. front end bumps look much worse but are super easy to repair. the rear end is the exact opposite. usually only a ripple here or there but the chassis is as dead as a dodo.
as an aside, the engine hangs from a carrier attached at each rail. when one bends the engine is twisted or pushed over. sometimes you are lucky and the engine or transmission mounts give way. if not then you need to open up everything and crack check the lot (engine and gearbox) to see what took the load)
Exactly. One photo tells all, that being the one which shows the mismatch between the N/S rear quarter and the engine cover :
Insurance companies don't write these cars off "for the fun of it".
The later shells will pull, but not like an air-cooled car. The modern body shell is expendable, the occupants within it, not so.
As Neil says, there might not be any visible suspension damage, but once the rear leg has been jigged/replaced, there's a good chance the rear crossmember assembly won't fit.
Here's what the crossmember assembly looks like when you do the job properly . . . . . :
keep it lit said:
not cheap is it?...
we just bought this for the same money!
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/mot...
yum!!
Are you racing or running it on track days ?we just bought this for the same money!
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/mot...
yum!!
If track days do you have an H pattern manual box ?
I understand that the sequential boxes are on 8 hour rebuilds and if you try to be kind you will probably break it ... so maybe worth checking your options.
It's meant to be approx 40hours assuming no mishaps but everyone I know, including myself seemed to end up on 20hr refresh cycles. ymmv.
Fwiw offsetting a refresh even though the box feels ok just gives you a bigger bill when you do stick it in, plus as stuff wears the potential for a big issue increases. Selecting 2 gears at once for example with the resulting pop.
Fwiw offsetting a refresh even though the box feels ok just gives you a bigger bill when you do stick it in, plus as stuff wears the potential for a big issue increases. Selecting 2 gears at once for example with the resulting pop.
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