Loeb - retiring from WRC?
Loeb - retiring from WRC?
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Twincam16

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27,647 posts

287 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Looks like he's scaling back his involvement next season, perhaps to compete in the WTCC instead:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102876...

Apparently the Citroen WRC team has 60% backing from Abu Dhabi, and can continue even with funding reduced from PSA (who are also running the 208 R5 in the IRC), so it's not like he wouldn't have a drive.

Beginning of the end?

ettore

5,076 posts

281 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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What's he got to prove?

Must be rather boring these days and it's not as if it has the profile anymore either.

ArnageWRC

2,331 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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I think of plenty of series to join before I’d pick the WTCC – that’s even more of a mess than the WRC (saying that the WRC is looking on the way back up) . It seems Citroen are desperate to keep hold of him that the WTCC is the only series they can afford to do with him. Let him go, so he can do a proper series in a proper car! LMP/GT racing....

Twincam16

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27,647 posts

287 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Apparently he's said he's doing the Monte Carlo because it's his favourite, but after that he's just going to pick and choose rather than contesting the championship.

I wonder if he might be interested in running in the new RGT class? Doesn't sound like they'll be contesting every rally, and he may manage to beat his WRC stage times in one.

MissChief

7,973 posts

197 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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I'd love him to 'do a Rossi' and move teams to prove that he's a great all round driver. I'm sure Ford would welcome him with open arms. Give him another F1 test too!

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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doogz said:
ArnageWRC said:
I think of plenty of series to join before I’d pick the WTCC – that’s even more of a mess than the WRC (saying that the WRC is looking on the way back up) . It seems Citroen are desperate to keep hold of him that the WTCC is the only series they can afford to do with him. Let him go, so he can do a proper series in a proper car! LMP/GT racing....
I'm guessing, completely, but perhaps WTCC would be a stepping stone to something quicker? There's no doubt he's a fantastic driver, but he's spent most of his career having the road to himself, a season in touring cars might be good for him in terms of honing his overtaking?
It's a fair point but he's good enough in cars to finish 2nd overall at Le Mans. He could step straight into a works LMP1 programme and be competitive in my opinion. Would rather see him doing WTCC than nothing but seems a bit of a waste of his towering talent.

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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DTM would be a better route, then he has a regular series to drive in plus he can do Le Mans without any clashes of timetable or contracts, especially if he drives for Audi.

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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doogz said:
I'd still love to see him in an F1 car, but I don't see it happening.
smile - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL-DyBiML3w

Muzzer79

13,023 posts

216 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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As far as I've read - Loeb has said he's bored.

He enjoys the rallies themselves, but not the travelling, recce's, etc.

Understandable - after 10 years with zero competition, I'd be looking for a new challenge aswell.

WTCC is an interesting choice. At 38, he's far too old for F1 so it's either touring cars or GT's.

I simultaneously admire and am frustrated by his loyalty to Citroen. They obviously know he's one of, if not the, best drivers of anything around so are doing anything to keep him but it frustrates me that he hasn't moved to another team to prove that it's about him and not his machinery.

Twincam16

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27,647 posts

287 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Muzzer79 said:
As far as I've read - Loeb has said he's bored.

He enjoys the rallies themselves, but not the travelling, recce's, etc.

Understandable - after 10 years with zero competition, I'd be looking for a new challenge aswell.

WTCC is an interesting choice. At 38, he's far too old for F1 so it's either touring cars or GT's.

I simultaneously admire and am frustrated by his loyalty to Citroen. They obviously know he's one of, if not the, best drivers of anything around so are doing anything to keep him but it frustrates me that he hasn't moved to another team to prove that it's about him and not his machinery.
I guess it's because he's spent over ten years building a team around him, who in turn build cars around him. Leaving that behind and going into something completely different could leave him high and dry a la Raikkonen at Ferrari.

Also, sounds like Citroen are going to enter the WTCC, I'm guessing with the C5, so maybe it's as much an occasional retirement project than the intensity of the WRC.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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I don't think he said he was bored, he did speak out about the 'four-day rallies' (two day events dragged over four) that we have this year.

Twincam16

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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EDLT said:
I don't think he said he was bored, he did speak out about the 'four-day rallies' (two day events dragged over four) that we have this year.
True - but that's what the spectators want. Short-burst special-stages were getting a bit anaemic.

I don't think he's bored but I think he might be tired, and you know what they say about not being able to withstand the temperature in culinary workplaces.

BBS-LM

3,978 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Is this an indication that the WRC might be retiring all together?

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Far from it. New teams, new promotor its gonna be gooood wink

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Twincam16 said:
EDLT said:
I don't think he said he was bored, he did speak out about the 'four-day rallies' (two day events dragged over four) that we have this year.
True - but that's what the spectators want. Short-burst special-stages were getting a bit anaemic.

I don't think he's bored but I think he might be tired, and you know what they say about not being able to withstand the temperature in culinary workplaces.
The stages are roughly the same length, its just they've been spread out over four days instead of two. I think one rally just had the power stage on Sunday and nothing else.

And somehow, I don't think the guy who could theoretically win the championship after the next rally is tired and 'can't stand the heat'.