What car to live through a solar storm? (just for fun)
What car to live through a solar storm? (just for fun)
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handbraketurn

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1,397 posts

195 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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It's not quite Armageddon, but some scientists have warned that society as we know it, may be greatly disrupted by an intense solar flare predicted for 2013.

A solar flare for those that don't already know is a sudden eruption of intense high-energy radiation from the sun’s surface caused by a huge explosion on the surface of the sun. The resulting solar storm could cause a geomagnetic storm on Earth.

Scientists believe it could damage everything from aircraft and ground controls, emergency services’ systems, emergency hospital equipment, banks and traffic controls, through to everyday items that we all take for granted such as home computers, cars, TVs and the driver’s friend – the Sat Nav. Power grids could overheat and bring counties to their knees whilst electronic items, navigation devices and even satellites could stop working after the Sun reaches its maximum power sometime in 2013.

The effect of such a ‘storm’ could be felt for days, weeks or even months as we try to bring the World back on line with electricity, communications and vital services.

This video on EMP weapons, shows a practical demonstration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

There seems to be mixed opinion on whether or not modern cars would be effected, obviously the more more modern, the more computers and circuit boards under the bonnet. In the worst case, these are the most likely to be effected.

What car would you choose to keep you going in a solar storm?

I'd go for a nice old Merc W123 diesel and stock up on vegetable oil.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C324425

And of course, topgear has taught us that Toyota Hylux is indestructible...

Sources for solar flares:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-131...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1927...
http://solarstormwarning.com/

Perd Hapley

1,750 posts

202 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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How would an EMP affect an old, old petrol car? I mean, points and condenser, voltage regulator and dynamo type old?

Could you keep spares of all those in a little faraday cage in the boot?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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I would say a landrover 300tdi or maybe a unimog 404S ones a clockwork diesel and the other is a german army truck with shielded electrics

FreeLitres

6,128 posts

206 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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MX5, roof off.

Next!

stewjohnst

2,479 posts

190 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Well that stheap minivan Tom Cruise had in War of the World's stood up to an EMP pretty well. rolleyes

I'd have an old Dodge Charger for the hell of it, then be fked when tank runs dry and the petrol pumps don't work to fill it back up.

Monkeylegend

29,221 posts

260 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Lister.

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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If I've saved enough small change in 'piggy', Unimog.

Other than that, Supercharged Dodge Challenger (just for a bit of variety) and hoon for an hour or two. biggrin

Triumph Man

9,586 posts

197 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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mercedes w123

Dave Hedgehog

16,328 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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427 cobra

so you could outrun the solar flare wink

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Caterham 7 bdr. Immune, and get a tan. Job jobbed.

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

260 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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I will stick with the old racer thanks. driving

V8 Disco

474 posts

236 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Series Landy, 2.25 diesel. No electrics required to run at all, however starting handle not easy - and coldstart w/o heater plugs would be tricky. Heard a story once that burning roll of newspaper in the air intake works!!

blearyeyedboy

6,809 posts

208 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Seriously, an old kick-start 125 motorbike?

JDMDrifter

4,063 posts

194 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Daewoo Matiz - I fancy a challenge wink


UF

7,018 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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An Interceptor. (Mad Max)

Noesph

1,178 posts

178 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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out of modern stuff (only stopped making them in 2005) I reckon these would keep going. Old school diesel power, not many electrics.


ShayneJ

1,073 posts

208 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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If we were subject to a flare powerful enough to kill a cars electronics we would have
far more to worry about than driving!

it is also very VERY unlikely
vulnerable systems are power grid transformers and unprotected
kit connected to it like computers not protected by surge protection
and comms networks still using a large copper wire network

the problem is not so much an actual EMP burst it is large induced surge currents
in long wires like power lines or low frequency antennas.


Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

294 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Perd Hapley said:
How would an EMP affect an old, old petrol car? I mean, points and condenser, voltage regulator and dynamo type old?

Could you keep spares of all those in a little faraday cage in the boot?
Why keep spares in a Faraday cage in the boot when most cars have a Faraday cage around the engine?

Bill

58,642 posts

284 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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ShayneJ said:
If we were subject to a flare powerful enough to kill a cars electronics we would have
far more to worry about than driving!

it is also very VERY unlikely
vulnerable systems are power grid transformers and unprotected
kit connected to it like computers not protected by surge protection
and comms networks still using a large copper wire network

the problem is not so much an actual EMP burst it is large induced surge currents
in long wires like power lines or low frequency antennas.
Huh? Science in an armaggedon thread? You'll be telling us zombies don't exist next rolleyes

LotusOmega375D

9,346 posts

182 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I can just see all those Millenium Bug engineers dusting down their old business cards in readiness to do battle with the next great threat to civilisation. Meanwhile they've all been spending the past few years wandering around houses for sale with their clipboards, checking which light bulbs are installed.