V8S rolling road session
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Im back with a result! 
Austec started with the full service + new caps & leads which finally sorted my god-awful juddering problems! The wiring was tidied, the rear fogs are now working, they fitted a new K&N air filter, attached a new side mirror (cheers Wildfire!) and my new sports pipes went on - they sound
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Their printer was not working so I coudn't get a printout graph (mark saved the data for next time) but at this point the S was putting out 240 bhp on the rollers.
My V8S had a Griff EUC
which was taken out and replaced with the Mark Adams Tornado chip, and with the car howling like a banshee on the rollers for a few hours, Joy and I just hung out and enjoyed talking to everyone there.
After the remap, the S came off the rollers putting out 254bph. Paul said he would easily find another 8bhp as the injectors are in very bad shape - they'll be cleaned at MOT time in October + 1 hour on the rollers, so 260+ which he said was good (ive only read V6 figures, what did the RR do for other owners?)
The difference? It's like being inside a ballistic missle with windows, windscreen wipers and an accellerator. I cant describe how different the car feels. Torque is massive, power is so available, so there, just so smooth! The throttle response has been totally transformed, its like a new car, and is wonderful to drive
>>> Edited by ukbob on Wednesday 25th August 20:02
Austec started with the full service + new caps & leads which finally sorted my god-awful juddering problems! The wiring was tidied, the rear fogs are now working, they fitted a new K&N air filter, attached a new side mirror (cheers Wildfire!) and my new sports pipes went on - they sound
oh Their printer was not working so I coudn't get a printout graph (mark saved the data for next time) but at this point the S was putting out 240 bhp on the rollers.
My V8S had a Griff EUC
which was taken out and replaced with the Mark Adams Tornado chip, and with the car howling like a banshee on the rollers for a few hours, Joy and I just hung out and enjoyed talking to everyone there. After the remap, the S came off the rollers putting out 254bph. Paul said he would easily find another 8bhp as the injectors are in very bad shape - they'll be cleaned at MOT time in October + 1 hour on the rollers, so 260+ which he said was good (ive only read V6 figures, what did the RR do for other owners?)
The difference? It's like being inside a ballistic missle with windows, windscreen wipers and an accellerator. I cant describe how different the car feels. Torque is massive, power is so available, so there, just so smooth! The throttle response has been totally transformed, its like a new car, and is wonderful to drive
>>> Edited by ukbob on Wednesday 25th August 20:02
Sounds fab mate. Your cheeks must be aching (steady Podie!) from all that grinning on the way home.
Those figures sound very healthy too. I know the V8S tends to be nearer the factory quoted BHP than some, but to start out with 240 before Mark was set loose on it is superb.
Very interested to hear what you have to say about the general 'feel' and 'driveability' of the car now, as I may go tis route when I can afford it.
Reckon you now have yourself a well sorted V8S.
Congrats there Bob, an obscenely healthy starting figure IMHO, what was the wheel figure like before and after any idea of the Torque figures as well 
. Your injectors must be really poor if Paul says he can get another 8hp out of the motor, just from them, and you are making 250+ now
. When you say sports exhaust, what exactly have you had fitted
. Good to see the old V8S's showing these other RV8 Tivs what can be produced
, seem to recall Paul saying that they nearly always do that. They outstripg the 4ltr griffs and Chims by at least 20hp and weigh less to boot. Great
. Harry
How does it drive? The first immediately noticible factor other than the lovely sound from the sports pipes (which were from ACT I believe) was the fact that the accelerator felt heavier at first touch, and I found a resevoir of extra power that would much more easily come to life with a feathering of the throttle. It felt tighter, more together, "Much more responsive" are the best words to describe it.
Im sorry I dont have the torque figures Harry, or bhp at the wheels figures either. Paul and I were talking about you and your fine motor
I told him I couldnt come back to PH without the graphs, but their printer was broken - I'll post when i get the info.
Paul said my injectors had to be cleaned, as they were in bad shape, and seemed confident that he could increase the 254 up another 8bhp to 260+ as 2 pistons were running FAR too lean, with the others now running too rich to compensate, and quite a bit of power was being lost. The y-piece was fitted when I got the car, which probably helps a tad, and the engine has been rebuilt which also gives a wee bit more grunt, right?
Paul said the same to me... that the V8S's outstrip the 4 litre cars, with the obvious reason being because S's are special
What are your RR figures? I hear youve got a properly sorted car!!
(which were from ACT I believe) was the fact that the accelerator felt heavier at first touch, and I found a resevoir of extra power that would much more easily come to life with a feathering of the throttle. It felt tighter, more together, "Much more responsive" are the best words to describe it. Im sorry I dont have the torque figures Harry, or bhp at the wheels figures either. Paul and I were talking about you and your fine motor
I told him I couldnt come back to PH without the graphs, but their printer was broken - I'll post when i get the info. Paul said my injectors had to be cleaned, as they were in bad shape, and seemed confident that he could increase the 254 up another 8bhp to 260+ as 2 pistons were running FAR too lean, with the others now running too rich to compensate, and quite a bit of power was being lost. The y-piece was fitted when I got the car, which probably helps a tad, and the engine has been rebuilt which also gives a wee bit more grunt, right?
Paul said the same to me... that the V8S's outstrip the 4 litre cars, with the obvious reason being because S's are special
What are your RR figures? I hear youve got a properly sorted car!!
Bob won't say in absolute figures but a little north of where you are, and where you hope to be post injector clean . Stil not quiet right either with a little more to come, but that really will be it then 
.
When you say fitted Y piece do you mean the HarryW, in conjunction with ACT
, developed blended one or a standard one :confuse d:as this might explain the highish start figure for your car.
Either sterling figures, which indicate its probably breathed on in other areas.
Before people try to dismiss the figures as a quirk, don't lose sight of the fact that the highest standard 500 engine Tiv on Austec RR has only made 285bhp with the average making between 260/275, so at knocking 260 brake you are up there Although you will never have quiet the same level of Torque, just .
Harry
. Stil not quiet right either with a little more to come, but that really will be it then . When you say fitted Y piece do you mean the HarryW, in conjunction with ACT
, developed blended one or a standard one :confuse d:as this might explain the highish start figure for your car. Either sterling figures, which indicate its probably breathed on in other areas.
Before people try to dismiss the figures as a quirk, don't lose sight of the fact that the highest standard 500 engine Tiv on Austec RR has only made 285bhp with the average making between 260/275, so at knocking 260 brake you are up there
Although you will never have quiet the same level of Torque, just . Harry
HarryW said:
When you say fitted Y piece do you mean the HarryW, in conjunction with ACT
the what or the what? I was speaking to mike weeks ago about the exhaust, told him i didnt know my y-piece from my y-fronts, he explained, I checked, told him I thought I had one, and today he confirmed that I did (the y piece that is)... if that makes any sense
Hi Rob,
Just a quick message to say I'm pleased that you have the car running perfectly now and those RR figures are great.
Regarding your injectors, try some Wynns injector cleaner spray, it was the only thing that worked with mine, I thought I'd have to replace them but it made a huge difference. You just need to take off the air filters and spray up the air flow meters, then I disconnected the air intake at the plenum and sprayed in their too. You'll need to keep the engine running so will need the help of Mrs UKBOB.
I used most of a can to clean both air flow meters and then to spray in the plenum to clean injectors.
As I said, made a huge difference and cost just £5.99, available from most Halfords stores.
Anyway, good luck, best go as Mrs KS2 is watching over me and fretting about not being ready for the removal truck
Just a quick message to say I'm pleased that you have the car running perfectly now and those RR figures are great.
Regarding your injectors, try some Wynns injector cleaner spray, it was the only thing that worked with mine, I thought I'd have to replace them but it made a huge difference. You just need to take off the air filters and spray up the air flow meters, then I disconnected the air intake at the plenum and sprayed in their too. You'll need to keep the engine running so will need the help of Mrs UKBOB.
I used most of a can to clean both air flow meters and then to spray in the plenum to clean injectors.
As I said, made a huge difference and cost just £5.99, available from most Halfords stores.
Anyway, good luck, best go as Mrs KS2 is watching over me and fretting about not being ready for the removal truck
Wow that's great power, you normally only see that from head work and cams and trumpets! bugger, my car at under 180bhp is really sick now if std cars can make 240bhp 
Previous best i'd ever seen on a V8S was 212bhp and i thought that was stunning bearing in mind most 4 litre cat cars don't make over 200bhp on the rolling road i use.
excellent result, bet you're chuffed to bits .. will have to meet you on track one day to actually *see* how much faster your car is than mine ..
best wishes
joo
Previous best i'd ever seen on a V8S was 212bhp and i thought that was stunning bearing in mind most 4 litre cat cars don't make over 200bhp on the rolling road i use.
excellent result, bet you're chuffed to bits .. will have to meet you on track one day to actually *see* how much faster your car is than mine ..
best wishes
joo
kentishS2 said:
Hi Rob,
Just a quick message to say I'm pleased that you have the car running perfectly now and those RR figures are great.
...take off the air filters and spray up the air flow meters, then I disconnected the air intake at the plenum and sprayed in their too. You'll need to keep the engine running so will need the help of Mrs UKBOB.
Hmmm
Now that the car is behaving, I feel more confident about taking bits off, actually using my S manual, and learning the basics of S maintenance 101 (something I wasn't keen on doing before) (cue spontaneous applause from other S owners)
... I must admit, though, I dont like the idea of always simply handing the vehicle back to Austec and barking "Do it for me" for every little niggle, but I know they will do a more thorough job, it needs to be done properly (never been done by the looks of it) and Mark and Paul said I would definitely benefit from a remap after a thorough cleaning, and another hour on the RR, so Im getting them to do the job properly come MOT time.
Are you moving today Kentish? If so hope things go well
Dont forget to pack the S in the process joospeed said:
Wow that's great power, you normally only see that from head work and cams and trumpets! bugger, my car at under 180bhp is really sick now if std cars can make 240bhp
Previous best i'd ever seen on a V8S was 212bhp and i thought that was stunning bearing in mind most 4 litre cat cars don't make over 200bhp on the rolling road i use.
excellent result, bet you're chuffed to bits .. will have to meet you on track one day to actually *see* how much faster your car is than mine.
You mean you didn't notice me on the horizon, last time we tracked together??
Jools, its my first ever car, I drive like a fairy (and rightly so!) and am not ready for tracking it yet, although I might be up for some drag strip action (of the automtoive kind) when im a little more comfortable with my own driving and familiar with handling.
As mentioned here before, im just passing the stage where I dont need to sing and old "clutch in clutch out, this is how you drive a car" song when approaching roundabouts
Why do you only get 180 brake? Is that at the wheels? If anyones car would be sorted, given that you do track yours, and upgrade cars for a living, it should be yours
Whens the cerbie engine being fitted anyway?
Great figures there Bob, hope mine is as healthy when I go to austec!! Although probably not thats a healthy car you have got there!! Mine was on the rollers over at AMD last week and was putting out only 220bhp so it will be interesting what Austec record! To be honest figures are just pub talk, the thing for me in having the Tornado chip is the better driveability of the car, let me know how much better it is through the rev range.
Cheers and congrats.
Mike
Cheers and congrats.
Mike
Morning Mike As always, sensible comments - had there been two chips I personally would have opted for the drivability chip rather than more power Through the rev range, its totally different. Its hard to say becuase my car really DID need sorting, but the transformation is phenomenal.
I asked what the improvement would be like before they were finished, Paul said there would be no comparison whatsoever, and Mark flashed looks of absolute agreement, nodding & generally looking very relaxed, happy, and confident.
Course, being me, I doubted, fretted, and worried if they knew what they were doing
The car has had a sex change, and a species change too, starting off as a six-week old three-legged female kitten, transforming into a fully mature steroid eating male tyranosaurus rex. Thats what it feels like, to me.
But as we all know, a good driver sets the best pace, but it will be interesting to see my S perform in time to come.
>> Edited by ukbob on Thursday 26th August 08:59
As always, sensible comments - had there been two chips I personally would have opted for the drivability chip rather than more power Through the rev range, its totally different. Its hard to say becuase my car really DID need sorting, but the transformation is phenomenal. I asked what the improvement would be like before they were finished, Paul said there would be no comparison whatsoever, and Mark flashed looks of absolute agreement, nodding & generally looking very relaxed, happy, and confident.
Course, being me, I doubted, fretted, and worried if they knew what they were doing
The car has had a sex change, and a species change too, starting off as a six-week old three-legged female kitten, transforming into a fully mature steroid eating male tyranosaurus rex. Thats what it feels like, to me.
But as we all know, a good driver sets the best pace, but it will be interesting to see my S perform in time to come.
>> Edited by ukbob on Thursday 26th August 08:59
Excellent to hear about the car 260bhp+ Wow!! I feel the need for a V8!!
I'll need to get the engine sorted on mine if I'm going to have a chance of keeping up with you next time I'm down South. I'm off for a run tonight with Minimax and his Ginetta. What am I going to do about all these V8s?
You'll have to take me out for a spin!
I'll need to get the engine sorted on mine if I'm going to have a chance of keeping up with you next time I'm down South. I'm off for a run tonight with Minimax and his Ginetta. What am I going to do about all these V8s?
You'll have to take me out for a spin!
WildfireS3 said:
Excellent to hear about the car 260bhp+ Wow!! I feel the need for a V8!!
I'll need to get the engine sorted on mine if I'm going to have a chance of keeping up with you next time I'm down South.
You'll have to take me out for a spin!
You'll have no trouble keeping up with me, Im giving her plenty of slow and easy
with just an occasional thrusting of the scary pedal. Its the other chaps you'd have to drive hard to catch up with. Am I allowed to mention on the S forum that you almost got credit to snap up an elise last week?
Oh ye Traitorous brother of the S cloth!! You'd love the V8 though Chris, be able to work on it yourself etc, you know it makes sense ukbob said:
You mean you didn't notice me on the horizon, last time we tracked together??
Jools, its my first ever car, I drive like a fairy (and rightly so!) and am not ready for tracking it yet, although I might be up for some drag strip action (of the automtoive kind) when im a little more comfortable with my own driving and familiar with handling.
As mentioned here before, im just passing the stage where I dont need to sing and old "clutch in clutch out, this is how you drive a car" song when approaching roundabouts
Why do you only get 180 brake? Is that at the wheels? If anyones car would be sorted, given that you do track yours, and upgrade cars for a living, it should be yours
I bunged the car on the rolers one day when i was down at nobles, the engine revs well enough and drives like a dream, just has no power! Doesn't seem to stop it going well at tracks, but then i choose tracks that flatter it's handling rather than power circuits.
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