Right of way at junction, wrong or right here?
Discussion
See pictured junction, I'm the yellow arrow, wanting to turn right.
Across from me, are two cars queued one behind the other.
So I wait for the 1st car to go, and then after ensuring the junction is clear, I proceed forward, at which point the 2nd car does exactly the same thing.
I thought I had right of way in this situation - am I wrong?
Google maps: http://goo.gl/maps/dKrsS
I was in Providence Street, the other person was in Tetley street.
Across from me, are two cars queued one behind the other.
So I wait for the 1st car to go, and then after ensuring the junction is clear, I proceed forward, at which point the 2nd car does exactly the same thing.
I thought I had right of way in this situation - am I wrong?
Google maps: http://goo.gl/maps/dKrsS
I was in Providence Street, the other person was in Tetley street.
So let me get this absolutely correct.
If I'm waiting to turn right, and there is a queue of 5 cars waiting to go straight across, I need to wait for all 5 cars?
What about giving way to the right? (Although I realise that could apply to both parties in this case).
Perhaps after 30 years of driving I need to go back to class....
If I'm waiting to turn right, and there is a queue of 5 cars waiting to go straight across, I need to wait for all 5 cars?
What about giving way to the right? (Although I realise that could apply to both parties in this case).
Perhaps after 30 years of driving I need to go back to class....
TonyRPH said:
So let me get this absolutely correct.
If I'm waiting to turn right, and there is a queue of 5 cars waiting to go straight across, I need to wait for all 5 cars?
What about giving way to the right? (Although I realise that could apply to both parties in this case).
Perhaps after 30 years of driving I need to go back to class....
Giving waybto the right? How does that apply here?If I'm waiting to turn right, and there is a queue of 5 cars waiting to go straight across, I need to wait for all 5 cars?
What about giving way to the right? (Although I realise that could apply to both parties in this case).
Perhaps after 30 years of driving I need to go back to class....
TonyRPH said:
So let me get this absolutely correct.
If I'm waiting to turn right, and there is a queue of 5 cars waiting to go straight across, I need to wait for all 5 cars?
What about giving way to the right? (Although I realise that could apply to both parties in this case).
Perhaps after 30 years of driving I need to go back to class....
err yes!If I'm waiting to turn right, and there is a queue of 5 cars waiting to go straight across, I need to wait for all 5 cars?
What about giving way to the right? (Although I realise that could apply to both parties in this case).
Perhaps after 30 years of driving I need to go back to class....
I can't believe after 30 years of driving you haven't understood this.
Oh dear
TonyRPH said:
Yes.
At least that's how I was taught to drive in SA.
Traffic moves on a "one for one" basis.
Not over here. If you're turning across the path of other traffic then you have to wait.At least that's how I was taught to drive in SA.
Traffic moves on a "one for one" basis.
Still, if you've been getting it wrong for 30 years and nobody has crashed into you then that's pretty good going!
Symbolica said:
Not over here. If you're turning across the path of other traffic then you have to wait.
Still, if you've been getting it wrong for 30 years and nobody has crashed into you then that's pretty good going!
Oddly enough, in the 16 years I have been driving in the UK, this is the first time I have had such an issue.Still, if you've been getting it wrong for 30 years and nobody has crashed into you then that's pretty good going!
TonyRPH said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
If you are turning right and he's going straight on I'd say it's normal for you to be ready to give precedence.
In UK there is no "first come, first served" rule of which I am aware.
This is probably a key point.In UK there is no "first come, first served" rule of which I am aware.
If you arrive at a junction crossing a main road and someone opposite is waiting to turn right it's courtesy to hold back a few yds from the give way line to allow them to have first shout when a gap appears in the main road traffic.
Once they've done it you can pull up to the give way line to have your go.
Otherwise the turning right person could keep getting thwarted by traffic opposite and wait all day
DrTre said:
To be fair, I would say more often than not it does, but it's not a strict "rule of the road"
Agreed. But as you say, that's driver courtesy rather than a rule.In USA the position is different and that's how they get by without roundabouts, using a "4-way stop" instead. Each driver gives way to the right so cars move off in a rotating first come, first served way.
UK is different and if you're turning right at a crossroads you're likely to be waiting.
saaby93 said:
ourtesy comes into it
If you arrive at a junction crossing a main road and someone opposite is waiting to turn right it's courtesy to hold back a few yds from the give way line to allow them to have first shout when a gap appears in the main road traffic.
Once they've done it you can pull up to the give way line to have your go.
Otherwise the turning right person could keep getting thwarted by traffic opposite and wait all day
Thinking back, this is by and large what happened this morning - but then the person "woke up" and bolted out of the junction from slightly less than a car length behind the dotted line.If you arrive at a junction crossing a main road and someone opposite is waiting to turn right it's courtesy to hold back a few yds from the give way line to allow them to have first shout when a gap appears in the main road traffic.
Once they've done it you can pull up to the give way line to have your go.
Otherwise the turning right person could keep getting thwarted by traffic opposite and wait all day
I'm not trying to defend myself here - perhaps I just mis-read the other person's actions.
It happens.
Ranger 6 said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
If you are turning right and he's going straight on I'd say it's normal for you to be ready to give precedence....
Yup - and wait until all those going straight ahead (pink arrow) had cleared through leaving space to turn right. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff