Transferring a number from a pre 1960 car post November?
Discussion
Huntsman said:
Thank you.
I'm not about to perpetrate such a thing, I was just wondering.
Never understood that line of thought? I've sold regs, generally to recoup some resto costs. I'm not about to perpetrate such a thing, I was just wondering.
If my car is worth say 10k and someone wants to offer me half that for its reg its a done deal. Sadly my principles are tempered with cash flow issues

Humper said:
Never understood that line of thought? I've sold regs, generally to recoup some resto costs.
If my car is worth say 10k and someone wants to offer me half that for its reg its a done deal. Sadly my principles are tempered with cash flow issues
Fair enough, I understand why people might, my nostalgia gene is too prominent.If my car is worth say 10k and someone wants to offer me half that for its reg its a done deal. Sadly my principles are tempered with cash flow issues

Humper said:
a8hex said:
So does this mean that if they really do do away with MOTs for pre 1960s cars that it will not be possible to transfer number plates any longer?
No, you just get your car MOT'd, it won't be illegal to HAVE an MOT 
Humper said:
Never understood that line of thought? I've sold regs, generally to recoup some resto costs.
If my car is worth say 10k and someone wants to offer me half that for its reg its a done deal. Sadly my principles are tempered with cash flow issues
I think it's a real shame when cars/bikes are parted from their original registrations, purely because it becomes so hard to trace histories.If my car is worth say 10k and someone wants to offer me half that for its reg its a done deal. Sadly my principles are tempered with cash flow issues

Who keeps a record of the engine/frame number - nobody. But, old photo's of vehicles usually show their registration numbers. My brother was recently contacted by the son of the man who bought his 1928 Rex Acme motorbike new, because he recognised the (quite unusual) registration from a photo in a magazine. My brother now has copies of all the original bills, insurance certs etc from the fella. Wouldn't have happened had the bike's number been changed!
mph said:
Humper said:
No, you just get your car MOT'd, it won't be illegal to HAVE an MOT 
And if it fails, you don't have to fix it and you don't have to inform your insurers and you can still drive it.
Great new legislation.
An MOT only demonstrates the car was of a standard to pass them MOT when presented for the test. Half an hour later it might not be, never mind 11 months later.
na said:
srob said:
Who keeps a record of the engine/frame number - nobody.
that's not quite right, some models have original records still available Old photo's show up registration numbers, but not the engine/frame numbers and half the fun of old vehicles is tracing their history, I think

onomatopoeia said:
No, you can't. You still have to comply with construction and use, which a car that cannot pass an MOT does not. You can no more still drive it that you can still drive a post 1960 car with no MOT.
An MOT only demonstrates the car was of a standard to pass them MOT when presented for the test. Half an hour later it might not be, never mind 11 months later.
Okay, technically you're correct but I don't know many people who regularly pull out a copy of the construction and use requirements.An MOT only demonstrates the car was of a standard to pass them MOT when presented for the test. Half an hour later it might not be, never mind 11 months later.
The whole issue is ridiculous.
Logically more attention should be paid to the safe condition of older vehicles, not less.
For me its a monetery concern, im concerned when I dont have any 
I sold the number on my Cortina years ago, it sold for what I paid for the car. I wanted the car, wasnt fussed about the number, hence a free car
Also, dvla will give you previous reg details for.a.fiver, I traced the ownership of my Cortina back.to 62 when it was first sold.
And MOT exemption is one of the silliest ideas dreamt up

I sold the number on my Cortina years ago, it sold for what I paid for the car. I wanted the car, wasnt fussed about the number, hence a free car

Also, dvla will give you previous reg details for.a.fiver, I traced the ownership of my Cortina back.to 62 when it was first sold.
And MOT exemption is one of the silliest ideas dreamt up
Humper said:
For me its a monetery concern, im concerned when I dont have any 
I sold the number on my Cortina years ago, it sold for what I paid for the car. I wanted the car, wasnt fussed about the number, hence a free car
Also, dvla will give you previous reg details for.a.fiver, I traced the ownership of my Cortina back.to 62 when it was first sold.
And MOT exemption is one of the silliest ideas dreamt up
Do you know how far back their records go? 
I sold the number on my Cortina years ago, it sold for what I paid for the car. I wanted the car, wasnt fussed about the number, hence a free car

Also, dvla will give you previous reg details for.a.fiver, I traced the ownership of my Cortina back.to 62 when it was first sold.
And MOT exemption is one of the silliest ideas dreamt up
It would be good to find out some details of some of the 1920s bikes, could get costly at a fiver a throw though

srob said:
Do you know how far back their records go?
It would be good to find out some details of some of the 1920s bikes, could get costly at a fiver a throw though
It's not always good to find out the details. Friends Velocette Thruxton with extensive history and club authenticity certificate turned out to have started life as something else entirely.It would be good to find out some details of some of the 1920s bikes, could get costly at a fiver a throw though

On the flip side another friend had located virtually every previous owner of his BSA Gold Star as a result of the DVLA search. One of whom had owned the bike without his wife's knowledge only to be rumbled fourty years later as a result of my friends letter !
It is surprising how few people know about this DVLA service.
mph said:
It's not always good to find out the details. Friends Velocette Thruxton with extensive history and club authenticity certificate turned out to have started life as something else entirely.
On the flip side another friend had located virtually every previous owner of his BSA Gold Star as a result of the DVLA search. One of whom had owned the bike without his wife's knowledge only to be rumbled fourty years later as a result of my friends letter !
It is surprising how few people know about this DVLA service.
Yeah I guess that's a problem. Your friend was unlucky to get stung with the Thruxton though, I guess it had the VMT crankcases but a Venom frame? I thought all the dispatch records for later Velo's were still available?On the flip side another friend had located virtually every previous owner of his BSA Gold Star as a result of the DVLA search. One of whom had owned the bike without his wife's knowledge only to be rumbled fourty years later as a result of my friends letter !
It is surprising how few people know about this DVLA service.
Most of our bikes have a pretty well known history already. Mainly because Dad's either owned them for years or he knew those that had them new(ish). He bought a BSA v-twin a year or so ago and the auctioneer made a big fuss of how exciting it will be for the new owner to trace the history of the bike. The old man looked in the log book, read the name and declared he used to work with the bloke. That was the end of the excitement there

We've got another bike that was registered new in Northern Ireland in the late twenties, so it has a "Z" plate. It really stands out and people often ask about it, which is nice as we know the history, so it's a good talking point. Although it looks like one of those chavvy number plates usually seen on battered old Vectras with big spoilers

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