Reverted back to Estorills but?
Discussion
I've gone from 17 all round 215s on the front

To standard 15 and 16 Estorills with 215s on the front with Toyo 888 all round in v good condition

Problem is car seems a bit all over the place and often feels as though it is tramlining,a little bouncy which just needs the Gaz Golds stiffening i think?
Am i missing something here,thought standard wheels would not be an issue,or is it i need to sort the suspension set up from 17 all round to 15 and 16?
To standard 15 and 16 Estorills with 215s on the front with Toyo 888 all round in v good condition
Problem is car seems a bit all over the place and often feels as though it is tramlining,a little bouncy which just needs the Gaz Golds stiffening i think?
Am i missing something here,thought standard wheels would not be an issue,or is it i need to sort the suspension set up from 17 all round to 15 and 16?
Edited by CHIMV8 on Sunday 14th October 10:10
Tramlining can be induced by worn tyres, max tread allows the tread to squirm and follow the road, worn tread gives tramlining.
By the same token, higher profile tyres are less likely to tramline.
So worst cases are, low profile, wider tyres with little tread!
Your new wheels should give less problems if the tyres are good.
By the same token, higher profile tyres are less likely to tramline.
So worst cases are, low profile, wider tyres with little tread!
Your new wheels should give less problems if the tyres are good.
blaze_away said:
Just a thought, with 17's all round were the profiles 35 or 40 ? yet now with 15/16 its 45 and 50 ?
If so. then you've got much deeper side walls which will flex more now than before making the whole setup 'softer' than before.
45/50/55 Is just the percentage of the width of the tyre .If so. then you've got much deeper side walls which will flex more now than before making the whole setup 'softer' than before.
I would say more like 50% and 55% for 15/ 16" wheel.
What size are your rear tyres ?
These would of been perfect for your setup ..I would buy them straight away if i were on 15 and 16" tyres .Good tread and not far off the triple 8`s
Snap them up
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/par...
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Sunday 14th October 18:11
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Sunday 14th October 18:13
CHIMV8 said:
888 215 on front
888 245 on rear
Tyres are like new with very little wear.
888s don't have a huge detailed tread on them but only hear good reports on them.
Do I need to change fronts to T1r's,just seems a shame when the treads are good.
Hoping to change to PAS in next week or so.
Do they clear the rear inner arch .. Those tyres cost a fortune !888 245 on rear
Tyres are like new with very little wear.
888s don't have a huge detailed tread on them but only hear good reports on them.
Do I need to change fronts to T1r's,just seems a shame when the treads are good.
Hoping to change to PAS in next week or so.
I'm running Estorils but 16" all round and the tramlining I experienced with the 15" was all but eliminated with the change. I've got PAS and am running 225/50/16 and 245/45/16 T1Rs.
Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Edited by V8 GRF on Sunday 14th October 18:19
V8 GRF said:
I'm running Estorils but 16" all round and the tramlining I experienced with the 15" was all but eliminated with the change. I've got PAS and am running 225/50/16 and 245/45/16 T1Rs.
Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Looks a good setup to me .Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Edited by V8 GRF on Sunday 14th October 18:19
SILICONEKID340HP said:
V8 GRF said:
I'm running Estorils but 16" all round and the tramlining I experienced with the 15" was all but eliminated with the change. I've got PAS and am running 225/50/16 and 245/45/16 T1Rs.
Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Looks a good setup to me .Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Edited by V8 GRF on Sunday 14th October 18:19
OleVix said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
V8 GRF said:
I'm running Estorils but 16" all round and the tramlining I experienced with the 15" was all but eliminated with the change. I've got PAS and am running 225/50/16 and 245/45/16 T1Rs.
Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Looks a good setup to me .Shocks are Nitrons and after being rebuilt recently the handling/ride was transformed.
ETA I wouldn't recommend mixing the tyre types.
Perhaps keep the 888s as trackday tyres? Although I did see a thread that said 888s weren't road legal anymore, although I haven't read it.
Edited by V8 GRF on Sunday 14th October 18:19
SILICONEKID340HP said:
Your front tyres look like rubber rings ! ,even the walls bulge .
Is this the problem ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqqZ28m8uCo
I'm not the one moaning.Is this the problem ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqqZ28m8uCo
CHIMV8 said:
peaktorque said:
A pointless post but I really dislike Estorills.
Why have you bothered posting then don't waste ur time on us u prick!Your front tyres look like rubber rings ! ,even the walls bulge .
Is this the problem ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqqZ28m8uCo
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