What economical large petrol engined estate car?
What economical large petrol engined estate car?
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6fire

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406 posts

180 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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My parents are looking for a new tow car to replace their ageing Volvo V70.

They love the Volvo, but they want better fuel economy. They used to own a lovely Mercedes C240 which would return 35+mpg at 80ish Mph and had a lovely 5 speed auto. Unfortunately it was a '99 car and developed terminal rust. Which put them off getting another one.

So they need:
A big engine (2.5 litres plus) for relaxed, uncomplicated, low stressed torque.
A decent auto box
Something with a reputation as being reliable and 'quality' (they wouldn't touch a KIA, hyundai or Chevrolet).
A car that'll top 35mpg on a run.
Not a BMW
A Merc is possible but might be a hard sell because of the rust issues - when did they improve?
An estate.

And all for the princely sum of £6k or less.

Apart from another Merc C class estate, I'm struggling for ideas.

SCRR

73 posts

171 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Merc C Class estate?

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

177 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Audi A6 or A8 perhaps? The budget should get something good as most want the diesels.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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saab 9-5 though it might not get the mpg.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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A legacy may fit the bill, not great on fuel though.

Accord 2.4 vtec

New shape Mondeo as they are huge

Avensis


kiethton

14,645 posts

209 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Honda accord in exec trim with the 2.4 engine?

Subaru legacy, although may not get the mpg?

tricky1962

160 posts

221 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Mondeo?

kiethton

14,645 posts

209 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Beaten by a few seconds.....

Jag x-type?

Codswallop

5,258 posts

223 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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6fire said:
A Merc is possible but might be a hard sell because of the rust issues - when did they improve?
An estate.
The quality went back up with the facelift of the w203 C-class around late 2004/ early 2005.

Have your parents considered a 330i/530i? They appear to be relatively frugal for the power they produce.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

177 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Just curious, why not BMW? Personal taste or bad experience? I'd have said a 530 is just what their after.

6fire

Original Poster:

406 posts

180 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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I had some truly dreadful BMW bikes. I swore I'd never own a roundel again. My parents share my views.

Looks like it may have to be a C class then.

Bitofbully

394 posts

168 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Surely an economical tow car should be a diesel? - this is the kind of thing diesels were invented for!

pjdow

1,116 posts

183 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Forget the petrol bit

Replace with a v70 d5

Heathwood

3,033 posts

231 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Assuming mixed driving, I'm not sure they're going to get a genuine 35mpg from a large petrol estate car with an auto box.

edit: sorry, 35mpg on a run. Fair enough, may be possible.

6fire

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406 posts

180 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Bitofbully said:
Surely an economical tow car should be a diesel? - this is the kind of thing diesels were invented for!
Conventional wisdom suggests no turbos, no common rail injection systems etc. Just a simple(ish) Big motor. And if you consider their 35mpg requirement and the difference in price of fuel then it makes sense to buy a petrol engined car.

Bitofbully

394 posts

168 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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6fire said:
Bitofbully said:
Surely an economical tow car should be a diesel? - this is the kind of thing diesels were invented for!
Conventional wisdom suggests no turbos, no common rail injection systems etc. Just a simple(ish) Big motor. And if you consider their 35mpg requirement and the difference in price of fuel then it makes sense to buy a petrol engined car.
Thing is, many petrol cars these days are going to be using some kind of common rail system - and a big multi-cylinder petrol isn't going to be returning 35mpg unless speeds are kept down. If towing, it'll be a lot less.

Economical tow cars tend to be diesels for a reason - something like a Passat TDI DSG or Mondeo TDCI Powershift is likely to turn in high 40s MPG where a petrol is going to be doing low 30s, too.

kambites

71,472 posts

250 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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For that kind of use I'd go for something turbocharged, whether its petrol or diesel.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

177 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Bitofbully said:
Thing is, many petrol cars these days are going to be using some kind of common rail system - and a big multi-cylinder petrol isn't going to be returning 35mpg unless speeds are kept down. If towing, it'll be a lot less.

Economical tow cars tend to be diesels for a reason - something like a Passat TDI DSG or Mondeo TDCI Powershift is likely to turn in high 40s MPG where a petrol is going to be doing low 30s, too.
I'd never tow with a petrol again. I have had both and the diesel torque provided low down makes easy work of our 5 berth swift caravan. With a petrol engine I found it had to be high revs to get things going and hold a sensible pace, that drank the fuel.

Heathwood

3,033 posts

231 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Well, this is the only car that comes close by inputting your criteria into the PH classifieds search engine. It claims a combined mpg of 33, so should theoretically see 35mpg on a run (I wouldn't bet on it though).

Bitofbully

394 posts

168 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Heathwood said:
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Well, this is the only car that comes close by inputting your criteria into the PH classifieds search engine. It claims a combined mpg of 33, so should theoretically see 35mpg on a run (I wouldn't bet on it though).
My dad had an Impreza 1.8GL Auto back in the mid 90s.

That used to do about 28mpg in average day to day use, and low 30s on a run. A 3.0 legacy won't even get close.