Budget drag car?
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MGZRod

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8,176 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Right, took my car onto a strip for the first time on Sunday (Crail, good fun!) and whilst it's not a proper drag strip (non-sticky surface, runway), it was brilliant.

I went with a lcoal forum and 3 of the guys used a £1000 EJ Honda Civic that they have spent around £500 on and they were running 14.8 runs. Now, this sounds good fun to me.

Very tempted to get a budget build on the go for next year. Only thing is, what to choose?

Honda, Volvo T5 saloon? (not an MX5, fun, but slow, as I found out hehe)

DanDC5

20,008 posts

196 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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MX/EG Civic and budget turbo conversion.

kambites

71,474 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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MR2 turbo?

You can buy one for about £1500 and it should be fairly quick out of the box. I'd guess it'll be under 15 seconds for a standing quarter mile. Fairly easy to tune, too, since it's already turbocharged.


The RX7 might be worth a look if you can stretch to one. They can be tuned for silly power.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 16th October 10:26

curlie467

7,650 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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To be honest, anything that does sub 15 second runs in standard form is a good basis to start from, the fun then is getting the times lower.

You will get better at launching the car, make the car lighter, tune it etc etc but make sure you run it down the strip standard so you have your bench mark.

SturdyHSV

10,443 posts

196 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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MR2 sounds like a good shout due to weight distribution and RWD. Avoid FWD if possible, you don't want the driven wheels losing traction when you accelerate...

Old beetles too if you aren't afraid of rust. They weigh nothing and all the weight is on the rear wheels, so if you squeeze a bigger engine in there, they can be very, very quick. Subaru engine conversion, simple Legacy non turbo will be quick, full on Impreza turbo engine will be very quick. You'll need to work on the transmission too if you want to do more than one run with some power.

Edited by SturdyHSV on Tuesday 16th October 10:31

cra1gy1989

293 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Civic turbo, reliable...ish and bloody fast! One on eBay 690bhp for 6 grand, I know its not in budget but a 10 second car for 6 grand! absolute weapons!!

MGZRod

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8,176 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Only issue we would have is classes for competitions. They aren't the best though out. You get:
FWD NA
FWD FI
RWD
4WD

So RWD would go from my 115bhp MX5 up to the 800BHP skylines and supras.

RX7 would be great. But i'm looking at getting one as an every day car hehe

I do have an MG that I may be selling over the next couple months. Tomcat rover turbo engine conversion?

LiamM45

1,035 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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BMW 328 and a st load of nitrous oxide.

MGZRod

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205 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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LiamM45 said:
BMW 328 and a st load of nitrous oxide.
But the danger to my manifold may make my floor fall off frown

kambites

71,474 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Ah so you actually want to be competitive? That, I'm guessing, means expensive in any class.

Probably something large engined, reasonably aerodynamic, and FWD then. How about strapping a large turbo or supercharger to a Corrado VR6?

Or maybe a Fiat coupe 20v turbo, or Alfa GTV V6 with a turbo?

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 16th October 10:42

MGZRod

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205 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Not so much competitive, just enough so that we can give ourselves targets when we go.

Don't have to pay labour charges or anything for work done so not too much of an issue if some parts cost more.

Tuvra

7,926 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Depends on how low your low budget is. I think stripping out the following and playing about with rempaps etc could result in some decent times:
  • Toyota Altezza
  • Any Volvo T5
  • Any Saab Hot Aero
  • Jaguar XJR

Big Fat Fatty

3,315 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Weight is the most limiting factor in drag racing, how about a Rover Metro with a K series swap or something similar? Can be done on the cheap, makes reasonable power for the weight of the car and I've heard they are quite fun to drive as well.

Or an old Nova with a 2.0ltr "red top" (forgot the engine code, the one from the Calibra/Cavalier GSi2000 C20 something) again, cheap conversion low weight and readily available parts?

Lots of options in FWD classes.

LiamM45

1,035 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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MGZRod said:
ut the danger to my manifold may make my floor fall off frown
okay... I'm only trying to offer advice thanks for the reply back... rolleyes

I've done the budget rwyb car, Golf VR6, £900, ran 14.6 all day long and 0-60 in 6 flat no problem. Just a standard car stripped out and a gutted exhaust.

Here, watch it dick a 350z smile - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MKN88SCfVA

Big heavy cars IMHO, are a no no. Little car, big engine, then make it lighter and grippier.

Get a cheapo E36 328, strip the living hell out of it, scour ebay for a nitrous kit and try a 100bhp shot first, maybe work up to a 150 shot. Gotta be a 13 in that.

Fiat Coupe turbo could be another good one.


OlberJ

14,101 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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FWD NA your best bet is a stripped out CRX/EF Civic.

You'll get a tatty one for a grand no problem, then it's just labour to lighten the hell out of it.

If you then go Turbo with it, you can play with the big boys.

cra1gy1989

293 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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MK2 fiesta 2.0 zetec turbo CONVERSION, cvh turbo
AUDI S2
Civic turbo
Punto , 20v turbo conversion
R5gtt with nos smile

All these cars will blow the socks off most cars in the same price range give evos/scoobys a shock!

All relatively cheap for what you can get from them, set of big flat hoosiers on the front, traction all day long!

Powerrr

1,978 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Big Fat Fatty said:
Or an old Nova with a 2.0ltr "red top" (forgot the engine code, the one from the Calibra/Cavalier GSi2000 C20 something) again, cheap conversion low weight and readily available parts?
C20XE 2.0 16v

C20LET 2.0 16v Turbo

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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MGZRod said:
Only issue we would have is classes for competitions. They aren't the best though out. You get:

RX7 would be great. But i'm looking at getting one as an every day car hehe
Even better!
Think of the spares, if you have a problem with one you have a full car of spares on the drive.

sw4rm

220 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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LiamM45 said:
MGZRod said:
ut the danger to my manifold may make my floor fall off frown
okay... I'm only trying to offer advice thanks for the reply back... rolleyes
2 fast 2 furious reference. Honestly, it's funny.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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I wouldn't be dragging an RX7, the stresses are gonna send that up in smoke pretty quick.

Sturdy, light FWD platform with a good engine as standard and aftermarket options available for big boost. That's what makes a good drag car.

Anything else is going to need big bucks spent on it to get near.

Crail is a nightmare, it's about a second slower than proper drag strips.

Gimme a shout next time you're going up Rod, i fancy seeing what the Porker can do. My mate is up with his daft Mr2T all the time. They are good for dragging but as you know, the competition is big so you have to spend money to compete there again.